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Maine Gov. LePage, my Canadian-born daughters "had to be naturalized, they couldn't be natural"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=AUzamofCx-c#t=10 ^ | Mar 2, 2016

Posted on 03/03/2016 8:35:22 AM PST by Ray76

Governor LePage "I also have two daughters born in Canada, and they had to be naturalized, they couldn't be natural."

Howie Carr: "Really? You don't think your daughters could run for President?"

Governor LePage: "They can't. I know they can't. I've already looked into it."

Audio at link


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: 2016election; alexjones; birtherreport; birthers; canada; canadianehh; cruz; election2016; foreignborn; maine; naturalborncitizen; paullepage; tedcruz; texas; tinfoilhatbirthers
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To: Ray76

Exactly.

Look folks - it doesn’t matter what Vattel said - the standard for NB citizenship in America is jus soli. Always has been, and hopefully always will be.


21 posted on 03/03/2016 9:13:38 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy (You can't have a constitution without a country to go with it)
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To: lquist1

A “process” is not necessary, dependence on statute is.


22 posted on 03/03/2016 9:14:47 AM PST by Ray76 (Judge Roy Moore for Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States)
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To: Liz
By his own admission, he stated he has not been naturalized.

The Oilers are playing in Philly tonight. I might be able to see him sing O Canada if I get a ticket?

23 posted on 03/03/2016 9:15:58 AM PST by Stentor (Oh Teddy Cruz, Canadian that you be. O Teddy Cruz, we stand on guard for thee.)
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw
Cruzoids simply CANNOT understand the difference. It’s a sickness really.

It's an obfuscation born of political necessity.

24 posted on 03/03/2016 9:16:16 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy (You can't have a constitution without a country to go with it)
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

We do understand NBC and follow the existing laws and from that, we understand that a person is either, by the conditions of their birth, born a citizen OR has been naturalized which, by law, ONLY occurs after one is born.

Sen Cruz was born a US Citizen and has NEVER need to be naturalized. Thus, he is naturally born a US Citizen.


25 posted on 03/03/2016 9:16:36 AM PST by taxcontrol ( The GOPe treats the conservative base like slaves by taking their votes and refuses to pay)
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To: taxcontrol
"Yes, they were US citizens at birth via Title 8 Section 1401 subsection G of the US Code and as such have never needed to be naturalized. The Gov is in error."

You are in error.

You can't create a natural born Citizen by any law made by man. Natural Law is what defines a natural born Citizen.

Note the reference to Natural Law in the first sentence of our Declaration of Independence.

It is crystal clear that the Founding Fathers used the Natural Law definition of 'natural born Citizen' when they wrote Article II. By invoking "The Laws of Nature and Nature's God" the 56 signers of the Declaration incorporated a legal standard of freedom into the forms of government that would follow.

President John Quincy Adams, writing in 1839, looked back at the founding period and recognized the true meaning of the Declaration's reliance on the "Laws of Nature and of Nature's God." He observed that the American people's "charter was the Declaration of Independence. Their rights, the natural rights of mankind. Their government, such as should be instituted by the people, under the solemn mutual pledges of perpetual union, founded on the self-evident truth's proclaimed in the Declaration."

The Constitution, Vattel, and “Natural Born Citizen”: What Our Framers Knew

The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God: The True Foundation of American Law

The Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term “natural born citizen” to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”.

MINOR V. HAPPERSETT IS BINDING PRECEDENT AS TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL DEFINITION OF A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

Neither the 14th Amendment nor Wong Kim Ark make one a Natural Born Citizen

The Harvard Law Review Article Taken Apart Piece by Piece and Utterly Destroyed

Citizenship Terms Used in the U.S. Constitution - The 5 Terms Defined & Some Legal Reference to Same

"The citizenship of no man could be previous to the declaration of independence, and, as a natural right, belongs to none but those who have been born of citizens since the 4th of July, 1776."....David Ramsay, 1789.

A Dissertation on Manner of Acquiring Character & Privileges of Citizen of U.S.-by David Ramsay-1789

The Law of Nations or the Principles of Natural Law (1758)

The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God: The True Foundation of American Law

Publications of the Colonial Society of Massachusetts, Volume 20 - Use of The Law of Nations by the Constitutional Convention

26 posted on 03/03/2016 9:19:52 AM PST by Godebert (CRUZ: Born in a foreign land to a foreign father.)
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To: Liz

Paperwork does not determine a person’s citizenship at birth. Canadian laws do not determine a person’s US citizenship and are irrelevant to the discussion.

What we know as fact:
1) Sen Cruz’s mother was a US Citizen at the time of his birth
2) Sen Cruz was born a US Citizen via USC Title 8 Section 1401 subsection G

Thus he was naturally born a US citizen. That is the current law.


27 posted on 03/03/2016 9:20:07 AM PST by taxcontrol ( The GOPe treats the conservative base like slaves by taking their votes and refuses to pay)
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

Why are you getting jacked-up about something decided in courts? Why do you care so much about his citizenship? How are you soooo certain he’s NOT a citizen?
And what is this ‘we’ talk? I have no doubt he’s legally eligible to run for prez.


28 posted on 03/03/2016 9:20:53 AM PST by No_More_Harkin
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To: lquist1

You are correct. Paperwork does not determine one’s citizenship at birth. USC Title 8 Section 1401 does.


29 posted on 03/03/2016 9:21:31 AM PST by taxcontrol ( The GOPe treats the conservative base like slaves by taking their votes and refuses to pay)
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To: Godebert

The supreme law of the land is NOT Natural Law. The supreme law of the land is the US Constitution. If you do not agree with that point, then there is where our opinions differ.


30 posted on 03/03/2016 9:23:11 AM PST by taxcontrol ( The GOPe treats the conservative base like slaves by taking their votes and refuses to pay)
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To: Hulka
dual citizen

We're not even sure of that. We've never seen the actual piece of paper that attests that Cruz is a US citizen. The date and status could be disqualifying. If not, why isn't Cruz releasing them?

31 posted on 03/03/2016 9:28:43 AM PST by grania
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To: PapaBear3625
Of course. Why would anyone believe otherwise?
32 posted on 03/03/2016 9:31:43 AM PST by GBA (Here in the matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

“We are talking about natural born citizenship. Cruzoids simply CANNOT understand the difference”

Did he have to be ‘naturalized’ to get citizenship? That is a very specific process that emigrants have to do. Did he? No he didn’t. He got citizenship without it based on having parents who were citizens. If you don’t have to be ‘naturalized’ then you are already natural born.


33 posted on 03/03/2016 9:31:44 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: taxcontrol
Much of our Constitution is based on Natural Law.

The Law of Nations or the Principles of Natural Law (1758)

The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God: The True Foundation of American Law

Publications of the Colonial Society of Massachusetts, Volume 20 - Use of The Law of Nations by the Constitutional Convention

34 posted on 03/03/2016 9:31:48 AM PST by Godebert (CRUZ: Born in a foreign land to a foreign father.)
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To: No_More_Harkin

Not jacked up about citizenship, jacked up about the Constitution. Focus.


35 posted on 03/03/2016 9:31:51 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: Stentor
LOL.....maybe he/ll wear his Mounty uniform.


36 posted on 03/03/2016 9:32:29 AM PST by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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To: TalonDJ

Naturalized at birth is a statute-created privilege. Natural born citizenship does not require any act of Congress.


37 posted on 03/03/2016 9:34:17 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

Exactly.


38 posted on 03/03/2016 9:36:06 AM PST by Godebert (CRUZ: Born in a foreign land to a foreign father.)
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To: taxcontrol

Don’t confuse a Trump supporter with the facts. Regardless of what they think about Ted, he’s a pretty bright guy and I would be pretty sure that he sorted out this “eligibility” issue long ago before entering the race. Who in the hell would run for President if they weren’t eligible and subject themselves to the “political colonoscopy” of running for President?


39 posted on 03/03/2016 9:36:15 AM PST by MaskedMan (The)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
Look folks - it doesn’t matter what Vattel said - the standard for NB citizenship in America is jus soli. Always has been, and hopefully always will be.

"The citizenship of no man could be previous to the declaration of independence, and, as a natural right, belongs to none but those who have been born of citizens since the 4th of July, 1776."....David Ramsay, 1789.

40 posted on 03/03/2016 9:38:17 AM PST by Godebert (CRUZ: Born in a foreign land to a foreign father.)
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