Maine Gov. LePage, my Canadian-born daughters "had to be naturalized, they couldn't be natural"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=AUzamofCx-c#t=10 ^ | Mar 2, 2016

[smokingfrog]

What about Barry Goldwater?

[GBA]

Hmmm...you've added another choice: Citizenship C.

Let's try that question again with the "anchor baby" option included:

Birth Citizenship A:

Birthplace: Any state, USA
Father’s citizenship: American
Mother’s citizenship: American

Birth Citizenship B:

Birthplace: Any nation other than the USA
Father’s citizenship: Any nation’s citizenship but NOT American
Mother’s citizenship: American

Birth Citizenship C:

Birthplace: Any state, USA
Father’s citizenship: Any nation’s citizenship but NOT American
Mother’s Citizenship: Any nation’s citizenship but NOT American

Given the above, does A = B?
Does B = C?
Does A = C?

Or, more inclusively, are A and B and C identical in all aspects?

[Red Steel]

So can I no he’s not. Tell you what SR, I’ll vote for Cruz if he makes it since there is a lot more at stake than the NBC dispute.

[Ray76]

In 1970 the foreign-born child of a U.S. citizen and an alien was granted citizenship by Pub. L. 82-414 § 301(a)(7), 66 Stat. 236.

The grant required a condition precedent: the citizen parent must have been present in the U.S. not less than ten years, at least five of which are after the age of fourteen.

The grant required a condition subsequent, specified by Pub. L. 82-414 § 301(b), 66 Stat. 236. This required a person who acquired citizenship via § 301(a)(7) to come to the United States prior to attaining the age of twenty-three and to remain there for five years. Failure to do so results in revocation of the grant of citizenship.

http://uscode.house.gov/statviewer.htm?volume=66&page=236

[Springfield Reformer]

LOL! Fair enough, but ... wait for it .... yes he is. :)

Peace,

SR

[centurion316]

You have a pretty bad case of birtherism. It does not respond to treatment, so I won’t attempt to do so beyond what I have already done elsewhere.

U.S.C Title 8, Section 1401 and Immigration and Naturalization Act, Section 301 are the legal authority that will be applied by any federal court. Godebert’s opinion won’t sway anyone in the court system. You and your fellow travelers can attempt to overturn the law, using all of your arguments at the links provided, emphasizing your passion through bold and all caps proclamations, and a votive sacrifice to Vattel, but it will come to naught.

I hope you find all of this amusing and that it provides you with entertainment. Enjoy.

[Ray76]

The law, Pub. L. 82-414 § 301(a)(7), confers the status “citizen”. Nowhere in the statute is the phrase “natural born citizen”.

[X-spurt]

Other than an undefined reference to NBC, there is no difference.

Don’t pretend you can get by just “saying” something makes it a verifiable fact, only Trump gets by with that stuff and only with his lemmings. Show us where there is any separate category from Natural Citizen.

Cruz nor anyone else can prove a negative. The burden is upon those that make a contrary claim.

[freedomjusticeruleoflaw]

WRONG. The burden is ALWAYS on the person asking for the privilege. Running for president is not a right. Cruz wants to be prez? Prove you are an NBC. He can’t, because he isn’t.

[No_More_Harkin]

Focus this.
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.
Cruz has obviously been Naturalized, otherwise the courts would be dragging him through the mud.
There are many legal scholars who agree, he is eligible. Let it go.

[DiogenesLamp]

You are correct. Paperwork does not determine one’s citizenship at birth.

You are correct. Including the paperwork upon which is written USC Title 8 Section 1401.

Natural Law determines Natural citizenship. Man made law does not.

[GBA]

Just for fun, here's another example of how the redefinition game is played and how we, by way of our wants and desires, are played in the game:

Marriage A:

Spouse A gender: Male
Spouse B gender: Female

Marriage B:

Spouse A gender: Male
Spouse B gender: Male

Marriage C:

Spouse A gender: Female
Spouse B gender: Female

Given the above, does A = B?
Does B = C?
Does A = C?

Or, more inclusively, are A and B and C identical in all aspects?

See what I mean?

This Tower of Babble-On, built as it is upon a house divided and in defiance of the natural order, will fall eventually.

If history is a guide, it's broken pieces will most likely land on the just and the unjust alike.

[X-spurt]

What you wrote is exactly why any suit against Cruz per NBC will never get beyond collecting the court costs and attorneys fees and hearing DISMISSED.

[nutmeg]

Have you seen this FRiend? Incredible interview with Gov. LePage yesterday on Howie’s show!

[freedomjusticeruleoflaw]

He was born in Canada. That’s all I have to know.

[Ray76]

He is a naturalized citizen.

[DiogenesLamp]

Born here on US soil, to any parents = NBC

If this is true, why weren't the children of slaves citizens?

If this is true, why weren't the children of Indians citizens?

If this is true, why weren't the children of British Loyalists citizens?

[X-spurt]

I know that Trumpbots are all ok on dumping the any parts of the Constitution you don’t see as not benefiting Trump, but Jeez, “Running for president is not a right”?

Very revealing!

[DiogenesLamp]

The Constitution is necessarily the starting point for our law because appeals to external authority can give different results.

Could you tell me how US Citizenship was first created and when?

[freedomjusticeruleoflaw]

Voting is not a right either. Why don’t you read a little history, particularly the Federalist Papers.