[Godebert]

"Yes, they were US citizens at birth via Title 8 Section 1401 subsection G of the US Code and as such have never needed to be naturalized. The Gov is in error."

You are in error.

You can't create a natural born Citizen by any law made by man. Natural Law is what defines a natural born Citizen.

Note the reference to Natural Law in the first sentence of our Declaration of Independence.

It is crystal clear that the Founding Fathers used the Natural Law definition of 'natural born Citizen' when they wrote Article II. By invoking "The Laws of Nature and Nature's God" the 56 signers of the Declaration incorporated a legal standard of freedom into the forms of government that would follow.

President John Quincy Adams, writing in 1839, looked back at the founding period and recognized the true meaning of the Declaration's reliance on the "Laws of Nature and of Nature's God." He observed that the American people's "charter was the Declaration of Independence. Their rights, the natural rights of mankind. Their government, such as should be instituted by the people, under the solemn mutual pledges of perpetual union, founded on the self-evident truth's proclaimed in the Declaration."

The Constitution, Vattel, and “Natural Born Citizen”: What Our Framers Knew

The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God: The True Foundation of American Law

The Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term “natural born citizen” to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”.

MINOR V. HAPPERSETT IS BINDING PRECEDENT AS TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL DEFINITION OF A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

Neither the 14th Amendment nor Wong Kim Ark make one a Natural Born Citizen

The Harvard Law Review Article Taken Apart Piece by Piece and Utterly Destroyed

Citizenship Terms Used in the U.S. Constitution - The 5 Terms Defined & Some Legal Reference to Same

"The citizenship of no man could be previous to the declaration of independence, and, as a natural right, belongs to none but those who have been born of citizens since the 4th of July, 1776."....David Ramsay, 1789.

A Dissertation on Manner of Acquiring Character & Privileges of Citizen of U.S.-by David Ramsay-1789

The Law of Nations or the Principles of Natural Law (1758)

The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God: The True Foundation of American Law

Publications of the Colonial Society of Massachusetts, Volume 20 - Use of The Law of Nations by the Constitutional Convention

[taxcontrol]

The supreme law of the land is NOT Natural Law. The supreme law of the land is the US Constitution. If you do not agree with that point, then there is where our opinions differ.

[centurion316]

You have a pretty bad case of birtherism. It does not respond to treatment, so I won’t attempt to do so beyond what I have already done elsewhere.

U.S.C Title 8, Section 1401 and Immigration and Naturalization Act, Section 301 are the legal authority that will be applied by any federal court. Godebert’s opinion won’t sway anyone in the court system. You and your fellow travelers can attempt to overturn the law, using all of your arguments at the links provided, emphasizing your passion through bold and all caps proclamations, and a votive sacrifice to Vattel, but it will come to naught.

I hope you find all of this amusing and that it provides you with entertainment. Enjoy.

[qman]

Idiot, A Declaration of Independence is a proposal of intent. It has no I repeat no force of LAW! People who supported the British during the revolution were not traitors because there was no nation only the intention of being a nation. Once Benedict Arnold swore and oath as a member of the continental military and broke it he became a traitor to his oath, had he stayed out of it like millions of american British subjects he would have been fine, I don’t remember any trials after the successful revolution for the supporters of the British.