Posted on 03/15/2011 7:39:23 AM PDT by charlene4
ObamaRelease YourRecords on 1:31 AM
Via Atty. Taitz; Great news, we can pinpoint the date, when SS-5 was filled out out for Obama’s CT SSN 042-68-4425 (one number after Thomas Wood’s below). Date is March-April 1977, when Obama was in HI, nowhere near CT. [SSA Records Embedded Below]
Obama is using 042-68-4425. 042-68-4424 was assigned to Thomas Wood, curently deceased. SSA stonewalled for a year. After I filed my law suit against the commissioner, they started providing info. This number gave us a date, a reference point March 28, 1977-April 15 1977. At that time Obama resided in HI, could not legally get this number -Source; http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=19708
I’ve no idea how to lay eyes on a Form 5. As for 999 SS#s, I think I read somewhere recently that the 999-prefix numbers are assigned to refugees. Can’t swear to it - will have to do some digging later.
My own belief is that he entered Occidental, and probably also Columbia, as a foreign student. As for Harvard law, I strongly suspect he was placed there by the collective planning and “suggestion” of such as Ayers, Wright, Farrakhan, Chicago “friends” of Frank Marshall Davis, and others. The Dunhams had as yet unidentified associates in Chicago. It’s possible they had connections to Davis via Chicago, from before Davis fled Chicago for the communist-friendly Hawaii. I suspect Davis in Chicago was likely associated with Ayers’ father, with Valerie Jarrett’s father-in-law [a communist journalist], and with Axelrod’s communist parents [ also in journalism]. The ties are old, and thick as tar. I also think those Chicago ties were the impetus for Barry’s transfer to Columbia, and that Ayers - who was in New York at [IIRC] the New School, and lived something like 4 blocks from Obie - was his mentor/handler.
[More on Barry/Chicago: this thread, comment #159]
I suspect Obamas people are putting disinformation out.
I think we all are trying to do the same, it is such a head banger!
I thought Sankey traced the exact # to this guy. Wrong?
The guy Orly is refering to had the number BEFORE the one Obama is using. It is confusing. If you know please fill me in, I have a headache!lol
I read the same info on 999#’s. I did some research quickly and it backed that statement up. The Universities used 999 for foreign students as an ID. SSA has never issued a number above 799. They say have plenty of numbers left to still issue without repeat.
Let me see if i get this yet!
Ludwig’s # is NOT the same as BO? Ludwig may have had 2 #’s?
BUT, the number BO is using definately was issued in 1890 CT, we do not know who to? Wonder who and why started the Ludwig idea. Sure sent me spinning.
BUT we do know the number042 68 4425still used by Obama (among many others) can not be his. Right?
Geez, I started this thread, I am more confused now!
Isn’t the point that he has used more than ONE ss# enough to cause an investigation? I mean THAT seems to be fact. He has used 2 just since he became political?
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Hope this helps!
Pretty much, yes. Garbage data from online databases is the source of these conspiracy theories about Obama's SS number.
That story and case refer to assuming another person’s identify. If, as alleged, BHO applied for and received several SS#’s under his own name it’s not identify theft. It’s some sort of fraud upon the SSA.
Certainly, it would be a felony, but does anyone really believe for one second that any court in the country would prosecute BHO for an alleged crime committed at 16? They won’t even look into his possibly running for and assuming the Office of POTUS in his 40s.
Unfortunately you are probably right, no prosecution for the golden boy...
Just another crime....
Conspiracy THEROY? NOT! It is a fact that the number he is presently using was not issued to him. It is a fact he has used several ss#’s. Conpiracy? i guess if you want to continue to call anything about this persons actions just conspiracy theroy. Maybe check the definition of Conspiracy theroy? Conspiracy theroy is not a bad thing! Lying and decieving are. For a person to sit in the WH and refuse to set people straight (which he can easily do) is a conspiracy.
What facts do you have that show any of the contested stories about him are conspiracy? Really would love to hear , if you can avoid the usual putdown comments and stick to facts or semblance thereof.
Did you see the computer captured print of his alleged colb and so you believe it is true? Data base garbage on SS#”S?
I wonder why anyone with a brain can just dismiss the craziness suroonding this person. Sorry, my thoughts point otherwise. Would love to hear some logic, not name calling.
Kleon said, “Garbage data from online databases is the source of these conspiracy theories about Obama’s SS number.”
Kleon, they’re not conspiracy theories. The more we investigate, the more we see that they’re facts. MISSING FACTS. EVERYTHING about Obama has gone missing. Can ya ask yourself why? HONESTLY? WHY?
You mistake me, I think, my friend. Just because I want evidence to support various claims, doesn’t mean that I believe there’s NO evidence to be found which will prove what we many suspect—that he’s not eligible and HE KNOWS IT.
Why does he spend thousand of dollars to avoid showing the documents that he and his supporters contend would prove his eligibility?
Why does he, in every backhanded way possible, try to avoid proving what he claims to be true?
Why is it so important to defeat the eligibility laws being proposed in multiple states? What’s to fear if, as he contends, he’s eligible? No problem. Just show the states the documents.
Why, instead of showing the documents, does he denigrate law-abiding, honest citizens, HIS EMPLOYERS, who seek only to ensure that the CONSTITUTION is followed? Why demonize people instead of simply answering their questions? He who promised transparency and, in fact, was to receive an award for transparency this very week? Until somebody considered the irony.
Where’s the freaking birth certificate? And why has he locked up LTC Lakin, simply for asking the same question? Is that the action of a moral person? To allow a man with a wife and kids to be sent to prison when ALL he had to do was to show the proof to the man himself, in private, not even to the court?
Instead, he decided to consign the man to living hell. And his family. A political prisoner.
A despicable excuse for a POTUS.
Interesting question about the daughters’ birth certificates. Somehow the press got hold of Rielle Hunter’s child’s birth certificate. HOW? They can get John Edwards’s love child’s birth certificate (is she running for office?) but they don’t think it’s pertinent to SEE the ACTUAL birth certificate of the commander in chief. Much less the birth certificates of his kids. I’d rather see his, though. He’s the one who works for us.
Charlene4—I know how you feel. Headaches! They’re all he gives us. (WE who question him. How dare we?)
I’m trying to track down the various, competing stories. I do think Ludwig may be a red herring. He doesn’t fit.
Thomas Wood is the guy with a number before Obama’s, IF they are correct about what the last four digits of his number are. If I ever figure it out, I’ll fill you in!
999 SS#s make perfect sense to anybody who knows about older computer systems. Back in the day, programs frequently REQUIRED people to fill in a field with data, even if it didn’t apply. ALL 9’s was the common answer: It was the catch-all entry that served as filler when there was no actual NUMBER to enter. So it make sense that foreign students would have their database records filled with 9’s on SS#.
Let me see if i get this yet!
Ludwig’s # is NOT the same as BO? Ludwig may have had 2 #’s?
BUT, the number BO is using definately was issued in 1890 CT, we do not know who to? Wonder who and why started the Ludwig idea. Sure sent me spinning.
BUT we do know the number042 68 4425still used by Obama (among many others) can not be his. Right?
Geez, I started this thread, I am more confused now!
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That’s what charlene4 said. My responses:
Ludwig’s number is not the same as BO’s.
Ludwig did NOT have two SS#’s, so far as I can tell. He did have two “death records” in online indices: One in the California Death Index, because he apparently DIED in CA. Another in the Social Security Death Index, because that’s how they record deaths and stop benefits.
The confusion came because people assumed (myself included, in the past, until I just now learned differently from Brown Deer) that the location in the SSDI is the location of death. It’s not.
They list the state where the SS# was issued and they then list the LAST ADDRESS known for that SS beneficiary. So apparently, Ludwig lived in Hawaii or his checks were sent there, but for some reason he died in CA. Maybe he was in a hospital there, for treatment, or maybe his family brought him to live with them there, before his death.
BO’s SS# was partially given on a record turned up by a private investigator. The last four digits weren’t shown. But it did show that the number he used then WAS issued in CT, where BO never lived, so far as we know. HOWEVER, the number wasn’t ISSUED in 1890. We now know that because Thomas Wood’s SS# was issued in 1977.
The same database record that showed the partial CT SS# for BO said that BO, at the time, was 119 years old, born in 1890. So people assumed that whoever really “owned” that number was born in 1890 and would, at that time, be 119 years old. But he probably wasn’t. Was probably already deceased.
At some point, people who know photo software, claimed to have undone the electronic redaction of BO’s record, revealing the last four digits, which were 4425 (they claim). So BO’s number is the next after Thomas Wood.
It’s entirely possible that whomever that number belongs to did receive it in 1977, at the age of 87. Older people who never before had SS#s, got them in order to receive other government benefits. Nursing homes often helped them to get the SS#s, if they needed them. Nobody, so far as I know, has EVER found the NAME of the person who had that number before Obama, if anyone ever did.
It’s possible that the number was given to BO, in 1977. Except he OUGHT TO HAVE a SS# already, because he claimed to have worked at Baskin-Robbins in Hawaii. So unless he worked there illegally, he had a SS# already. And he shouldn’t have a SS# issued in CT, because his bogus autobiography NEVER states any residence in CT, even by relatives. There’s no logical reason, if you accept his fake biography, for him to have received his first SS card in CT.
It’s confusing by design. It’s the Alinsky way.
No, he didn't "use" several SS numbers, that's just the result of flawed databases spitting out garbage data. It makes it look like he has multiple numbers connected to his name, but then so do 20 million other Americans:
http://www.idanalytics.com/news-and-events/news-releases/2010/8-11-2010.php
This is even more likely for the President, because people send in joke applications with his name on it, and those get listed as well until they're purged.
Thank you Greenperson. You cleared up alot!
Thank you for taking the time, this is very important stuff and often difficult. You are right *the Alinsky way*. truly appreciate what you have done here!
What about the laundry list of SS#’s? some could be useless, but the one he is using now and the one he used at Senate are different, Right> i will get back with those in a few. If you don’t mind I would value your imput and anyone else too who can figure this out!
In Obama’s home state, Illinois, Sankey tracked down 16 different addresses for a Barack Obama or a Barack H. Obama, of which all are addresses he was known to have lived at. Two Social Security numbers appear for these addresses, one beginning with 042, and one starting 364.
In California, where Obama attended Occidental College, there are six addresses listed for him, all within easy driving distance of the college. However, there are three Social Security numbers connected to these addresses, 537 and two others, each beginning with 999, which are not valid SSNs.
There are no addresses listed in New York where he attended Columbia University, but there is one listed for him in nearby Jackson, NJ, with a Social Security number beginning with 485.
In Massachusetts — where Obama attended Harvard Law School — we find three addresses, all using the 042 Social Security number. After Obama was elected to the United States Senate in 2005, he moved into an apartment at 300 Massachusetts Ave NW; the Social Security number attached to that address is the 042 one. Yet, three years later, Obama used a different Social Security number for an address listed as: 713 Hart Senate Office Building. This was the address of his United States Senate office. This Social Security number began with 282 and was verified by the government in
2008.
This mystery grows even stranger as other addresses and Social Security numbers for Barack Obama appear in a dozen other states not known to be connected to him. Again, I am excluding those records names not spelled exactly like his name.
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This makes me wonder.........
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