Let me see if i get this yet!
Ludwig’s # is NOT the same as BO? Ludwig may have had 2 #’s?
BUT, the number BO is using definately was issued in 1890 CT, we do not know who to? Wonder who and why started the Ludwig idea. Sure sent me spinning.
BUT we do know the number042 68 4425still used by Obama (among many others) can not be his. Right?
Geez, I started this thread, I am more confused now!
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That’s what charlene4 said. My responses:
Ludwig’s number is not the same as BO’s.
Ludwig did NOT have two SS#’s, so far as I can tell. He did have two “death records” in online indices: One in the California Death Index, because he apparently DIED in CA. Another in the Social Security Death Index, because that’s how they record deaths and stop benefits.
The confusion came because people assumed (myself included, in the past, until I just now learned differently from Brown Deer) that the location in the SSDI is the location of death. It’s not.
They list the state where the SS# was issued and they then list the LAST ADDRESS known for that SS beneficiary. So apparently, Ludwig lived in Hawaii or his checks were sent there, but for some reason he died in CA. Maybe he was in a hospital there, for treatment, or maybe his family brought him to live with them there, before his death.
BO’s SS# was partially given on a record turned up by a private investigator. The last four digits weren’t shown. But it did show that the number he used then WAS issued in CT, where BO never lived, so far as we know. HOWEVER, the number wasn’t ISSUED in 1890. We now know that because Thomas Wood’s SS# was issued in 1977.
The same database record that showed the partial CT SS# for BO said that BO, at the time, was 119 years old, born in 1890. So people assumed that whoever really “owned” that number was born in 1890 and would, at that time, be 119 years old. But he probably wasn’t. Was probably already deceased.
At some point, people who know photo software, claimed to have undone the electronic redaction of BO’s record, revealing the last four digits, which were 4425 (they claim). So BO’s number is the next after Thomas Wood.
It’s entirely possible that whomever that number belongs to did receive it in 1977, at the age of 87. Older people who never before had SS#s, got them in order to receive other government benefits. Nursing homes often helped them to get the SS#s, if they needed them. Nobody, so far as I know, has EVER found the NAME of the person who had that number before Obama, if anyone ever did.
It’s possible that the number was given to BO, in 1977. Except he OUGHT TO HAVE a SS# already, because he claimed to have worked at Baskin-Robbins in Hawaii. So unless he worked there illegally, he had a SS# already. And he shouldn’t have a SS# issued in CT, because his bogus autobiography NEVER states any residence in CT, even by relatives. There’s no logical reason, if you accept his fake biography, for him to have received his first SS card in CT.
It’s confusing by design. It’s the Alinsky way.
Thank you Greenperson. You cleared up alot!
Thank you for taking the time, this is very important stuff and often difficult. You are right *the Alinsky way*. truly appreciate what you have done here!
What about the laundry list of SS#’s? some could be useless, but the one he is using now and the one he used at Senate are different, Right> i will get back with those in a few. If you don’t mind I would value your imput and anyone else too who can figure this out!
In Obama’s home state, Illinois, Sankey tracked down 16 different addresses for a Barack Obama or a Barack H. Obama, of which all are addresses he was known to have lived at. Two Social Security numbers appear for these addresses, one beginning with 042, and one starting 364.
In California, where Obama attended Occidental College, there are six addresses listed for him, all within easy driving distance of the college. However, there are three Social Security numbers connected to these addresses, 537 and two others, each beginning with 999, which are not valid SSNs.
There are no addresses listed in New York where he attended Columbia University, but there is one listed for him in nearby Jackson, NJ, with a Social Security number beginning with 485.
In Massachusetts — where Obama attended Harvard Law School — we find three addresses, all using the 042 Social Security number. After Obama was elected to the United States Senate in 2005, he moved into an apartment at 300 Massachusetts Ave NW; the Social Security number attached to that address is the 042 one. Yet, three years later, Obama used a different Social Security number for an address listed as: 713 Hart Senate Office Building. This was the address of his United States Senate office. This Social Security number began with 282 and was verified by the government in
2008.
This mystery grows even stranger as other addresses and Social Security numbers for Barack Obama appear in a dozen other states not known to be connected to him. Again, I am excluding those records names not spelled exactly like his name.
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This makes me wonder.........