SS# Timeline Pinpointed?

Obama realease your records ^ | March 14, 20011 | Orly Taitz

[charlene4]

ObamaRelease YourRecords on 1:31 AM

Via Atty. Taitz; Great news, we can pinpoint the date, when SS-5 was filled out out for Obama’s CT SSN 042-68-4425 (one number after Thomas Wood’s below). Date is March-April 1977, when Obama was in HI, nowhere near CT. [SSA Records Embedded Below]

Obama is using 042-68-4425. 042-68-4424 was assigned to Thomas Wood, curently deceased. SSA stonewalled for a year. After I filed my law suit against the commissioner, they started providing info. This number gave us a date, a reference point March 28, 1977-April 15 1977. At that time Obama resided in HI, could not legally get this number -Source; http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=19708

[Truthbomb]

At the very least, Barry would have been required to have a SS number for his application to Occidental (unless of course he was not a citizen of the US). Other than living in Washington State as an infant, any SS number he would have been issued would have to be while living in Hawaii. If Barry was a citizen of the US, then there would be no logical reason for him, his mother, or his grandparents not to apply for a SS card like the rest of us. It sure looks like he was never a US citizen. I bet that he just made up the number not having any idea that they were issued geographically.

[Brown Deer]

Now to “Dreams”, pages 144, 145: July, 1986. Barry has just arrived from New York City to live in Chicago and to begin his career as a community agitator. He reminisces:

“I had been to Chicago once before...during the summer after my father’s visit to Hawaii, before my eleventh birthday, when Toot decided it was time I saw the mainland...” [Summer, 1972] “Perhaps the two things were connected, her decision and my father’s visit - his presence (once again) disturbing the world she and Gramps had made for themselves, TRIGGERING IN HER A DESIRE TO RECLAIM ANTECEDENTS, HER OWN MEMORIES, AND PASS THEM ON TO HER GRANDCHILDREN.”
[They traveled for over a month - Toot, Stanley Ann, Barry, and sister Maya]
“We flew to Seattle,...California and Disneyland,...Grand Canyon...across the Great Plains to Kansas City...up to the Greak Lakes...back west through Yellowstone Park.” “We took Greyhound buses, mostly...”. Barry gives NO details of the lengthy trip but this: “We were in Chicago for three days, in a motel in the South Loop...” He then goes on for nearly a full page about his 1972 impressions of Chicago. Returning to 1986, he sums up with: “I imagine Frank in a baggy suit and wide lapels, standing in front of the old Regal Theatre, waiting to see Duke or Ella emerge from a gig.”

[PA-RIVER]

But we do know that Joe the Plumber was investigated.

It's apparent that Obama was not. People looking into some of his records were arrested and prosecuted.

[butterdezillion]

Yes, I think you’re probably right about that.

Kudos to you for being able to wade through the writing in any of those books. Have you ever seen “Mr Bean’s Holiday”? If you have, you might know what I mean when I say the writing in Obama’s alleged books reminds me of Carson Clay - “Nothing. Nothing. Nothing.” lol.

Maybe it was knowing that I was being lied to. Just sort of spoiled the intellectualized poeticism for me.

[GGMac]

There is another possibility, mentioned by FReeper SvenMagnussen [Comment #7, thread “How to handle the ‘birther’ question, Feb. 24, 2011 8:23:49 AM].

He said, “Anyone interested in exposing Obama should look at his Form 5, Application for Social Security Number. His Connecticut based number was derived from an American Refugee Organization HQ’ed in Connecticut. Obama went to Indonesian(sic) as an American born in Honolulu, HI and returned to America as an Indonesian Refugee with his grandmother named as his custodial guardian.”

A lot of logic in this premise. Apparently Connecticut is/has been a hub of refugee resettlement services organizations for quite some time. There is a Connecticut Immigration and Refugee Coalition, which “coalition” was established in 1996, and has 29 member orgs.

Another possible scenario could be that Barry went the Indonesian refugee route upon his return from his 1982 trip - on an Indonesian passport - to Pakistan: refugee stop in Hartford prior to commencing classes at Columbia.

[GGMac]

I’ve not heard of “Mr. Bean’s Holiday”, and now you’ve got my curiosity and humor piqued, will try to find it!

It is irritating being lied to by the likes of the Won - however, the very fact that we’re being lied to makes for delicious “gotcha’s” time and again. The lesson a narcissist never learns, because it’s beyond his comprehension capabilities, is that the truth will out. He’s tripped himself up multiple times in that one book alone. Parsing does bring forth a very un-Christian willingness to gloat, and I can’t deny the sweetness felt over knowing that word of our discoveries does get back to him. And that there’s diddly-squat he can do to stop us - unless he gets his coveted internet kill-switch.

[charlene4]

Do you know how we could see Form5? Is it public?
I think he possibly attended Columbia (if he did) as a foreign Student, same for Occidental. An Indonesian? Besides the SS# traced to where he lives at those times,999, how did a below average student, from an alleged poor family, get into those schools? Even affirmative Action had higher standards. There is a reason we don’t see the college records. Actually the only school records we have seen were found before election in Indonesia where he was registered as an Indonesiam, Religion, Islam, name Barry Soretoro. YIKES! It is just nuts!

[EDINVA]

I don’t doubt for one second that he’s a huge fraud. But if the court’s won’t listen to serious legal arguments about his failure to qualify under the Constitution to serve as POTUS, why would a crime like this affect anything?

From what I understand of the SS# question, i.e., one person applying for multiple SS#s, it would be fraud, but I don’t know that it would be ID fraud if he used his own ID. Too many questions with this man. And no answers.

[EDINVA]

ID theft isn’t at the same level as running for and winning an election for POTUS, and acting as POTUS when there are serious questions about one’s eligibility. The courts won’t even take up very serious Constitutional questions about his eligibility for that office.

So why would they take up a far lesser offense? Much less a felony allegedly committed by a 16 year old 34 years ago? Is there any proof he’s using multiple SS#’s today? I don’t know. If not, I’d imagine a statute of limitations would have kicked in.

I don’t know that applying for multiple SS#’s in your own name is identity theft. It’s fraud of some other nature, but don’t know how it’s ID theft if you’re using your own ID.

The list of information Obama has kept from the public is long. Everything from the birth certificate to college transcripts, But the only thing(s) I *really* want to know about him are: is he a ‘natural born citizen’ and is he eligible to be POTUS? But no one will answer those questions.

[Greenperson]

Thanks. I wondered about that. So the SSDI record doesn’t indicate place of death, just the last address they had for where checks were sent? So that explains why people think there are two death “locations” for him. It’s a good bet that the last residence is probably the general location of death, but now we know that’s not always true.

But we do know from that record that his death WAS reported to Social Security, so they stopped the checks. Would he then be a good candidate for having his SS# swiped?

But his SS# isn’t the one Obama is said to have used, so why does Jean Ludwig matter?

[charlene4]

i think this summary from Stampeeve explains it best. Another great post. Stampeeve....

Barack Obama aka Barry Soetoro is currently using Social Security number 042-68-4425.
This number was issued to an individual who resided in Connecticut and who was born in
1890...Barack Obama aka Barry Soetoro never lived in Connecticut and he sure isn’t 120
years old! This is identity theft and Social Security fraud at the very least!!!
Neil Sankey was hired to investigate, here is part of what he found (excerpts from an
article at http://www.westernjournalism.com/?page_id=3255 ):
It appears that Obama has multiple identities in term of possessing numerous Social
Security numbers. In Obama’s home state, Illinois, Sankey tracked down 16 different
addresses for a Barack Obama or a Barack H. Obama, of which all are addresses he was
known to have lived at. Two Social Security numbers appear for these addresses, one
beginning with 042 and one starting 364.
In California, where Obama attended Occidental College, there are six addresses listed
for him, all within easy driving distance of the college. However, there are three Social
Security numbers connected to these addresses, 537 and two others, each beginning with
999. (from another source: current SSA documents claim no numbers above 799 have
ever been used. Some universities have assigned nine-digit “temporary” Social Security
numbers to foreign nationals beginning with 999.)
There are no addresses listed in New York where he attended Columbia University, but
there is one listed for him in nearby Jackson, NJ, with a Social Security number
beginning with 485. In Massachusetts – where Obama attended Harvard Law School –
we find three addresses, all using the 042 number.
After Obama was elected to the United States Senate in 2005, he moved into an
apartment at 300 Massachusetts Ave NW; the Social Security number attached to that
address is the 042 one. Yet, three years later, Obama used a different Social Security
number for an address listed as: 713 Hart Senate Office Building. This was the address of
his United States Senate office. This Social Security number began with 282 and was
verified by the government in 2008. (note, now he is back to using the 042 number!)
At most, Barack Obama aka Barry Soetoro was born a dual citizen (his father was a
British subject of Kenya and never an American citizen) so he is NOT a NATURAL
BORN citizen and he is NOT eligible under our Constitution to be President! Now here
is evidence that he is involved in identity theft and Social Security fraud as well. HE
MUST BE REMOVED AND INVESTIGATED NOW! The truth WILL prevail, he
WILL be exposed and YOU MUST STAND UP NOW!! This is FRAUD, this is
TREASON, this is a matter of NATIONAL SECURITY!!!
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he has used several SS#’s. That has got to be illegal. It certainly warrants an investigation. If they thought Joe the Plumber did this or heaven forbid Sarah Palin, can you imagine?

[lonestar]

I think Hill is more of a socialist than Bubba. If his name has ever been in the same sentence with Alinsky’s I’ve missed it...not saying it couldn’t be.

[charlene4]

Court ruling on SS# theft.
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=221161

[Greenperson]

I got all that. My questions:

How and why did someone settle on Jean Paul Ludwig as THE owner of Obama’s SS#? It’s not the same number. Yes, Ludwig was apparently born in 1890, got a SS# in Connecticut, and lived in Hawaii where he got his SS checks.

There had to have been many other men born in 1890 who got a SS# in CT. So how or why did Ludwig get selected as “the one”, when it appears otherwise?

Going back to the root of the allegation: How do we know for sure that the number did once belong to someone else, who was born in 1890? Neil Sankey found a record from when Obama lived in Massachusetts and was going to Harvard, apparently. But he didn’t give the last four digits of the SS# and it said Obama was 119 years old, born in 1890. But what was the source of THAT information? An online database that may be subject to transcription errors or which is just a conglomeration of information from multiple databases, which themselves may contain errors? I’m not trying to be difficult; I’m just trying to sift the wheat from the chaff and keep everybody from chasing down bad leads.

[Greenperson]

I got all that. My questions:

How and why did someone settle on Jean Paul Ludwig as THE owner of Obama’s SS#? It’s not the same number. Yes, Ludwig was apparently born in 1890, got a SS# in Connecticut, and lived in Hawaii where he got his SS checks.

There had to have been many other men born in 1890 who got a SS# in CT. So how or why did Ludwig get selected as “the one”, when it appears otherwise?

Going back to the root of the allegation: How do we know for sure that the number did once belong to someone else, who was born in 1890? Neil Sankey found a record from when Obama lived in Massachusetts and was going to Harvard, apparently. But he didn’t give the last four digits of the SS# and it said Obama was 119 years old, born in 1890. But what was the source of THAT information? An online database that may be subject to transcription errors or which is just a conglomeration of information from multiple databases, which themselves may contain errors? I’m not trying to be difficult; I’m just trying to sift the wheat from the chaff and keep everybody from chasing down bad leads.

[Greenperson]

Sorry. No clue why that posted twice.

[flowergirl]

Hi- I have been wanting to ask you this..Has anyone ever
seen his daughter’s birth certificates? What name/names did BO use when they were born? would their’s list the parent’s birthplaces?

[flowergirl]

Oh how i hope you’re right!!

[butterdezillion]

I don’t know of anybody who has seen them. They’d be protected from disclosure also. By the time he got married he probably had his supposedly US citizen identity though. By that time he had been bankrolled by the Saudi prince, had been to Pakistan to meet the dignitaries there, had his book deal.... the plan to get him on the fast track was already underway. So I doubt that the girls’ BC’s would have his real birth place on them. I think on BC’s they just put whatever the parents report for their place of birth, etc.

I wonder if he naturalized at some point.

[Nailbiter]

John Ross authored Unintended Consequences. He has good description of why someone would obtain, how to obtain and how to use recycled SSN’s.