Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom
Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.
The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.
The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.
Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.
McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.
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Obama can never be decent because his political compass comes from an extreme that is distasteful and alien to Americans.
He never set foot on the continental US until he was an adult. His “American” experience came from his teachings in Hawaii from a communist pedophile.
His “religious” experience came as an adult from a black liberation theology “church.”
Obama’s conception of America is one where the black socialist masses rises up to take what is owed them.
He’s the absolute worst person to occupy the Oval office. Soon we will be all rueing the day he was nominated. It isn’t far off.
Every instinct he has is counter to American values, culture and optimism. Even worse, he is a snippy, thin skinned marxist who does not understand economics at all.
All he knows is left wing religious beliefs and his own narcism.
14 posted on Sunday, May 24, 2009 7:21:30 AM by romanesq
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2257295/posts?page=14#14
Great analysis, I just wish we could fill in all the missing links that tell a more complete story about who this clown really is.
I am not sure I don’t believe the Malcolm X story but for sure I have no clue. There is so much out there on obama and his family and until he shows what he is hiding it will continue. I think it is possible the thing he is hiding is his third name Muhhammad. Or where it reads race or ethnicity it says arab. It could be that simple.
I just want to see that obama’s mother was born in Kansas. If she was then there will be a birth certificate. IF obama is hiding the fact that both parents were foreign born on his birth certificate then we need to know. I have never found any link to Stanley Ann being born in Kansas. There was one picture of her in kindergarten, then a classmate who had a crush on her said she vanished. I think that may have been the only year she was in Kansas.
Everyone assumes because obama said she was American that she is. Many will say since his mother was American then obama is automatically a American citizen.
Interesting Frank Marshall Davis was born in Kansas.
I will play with dates as far as birth. Then I will go to foreign areas.
Can you explain what you mean a little more? I am not sure what you mean. Obama’s grandparents are not important to him? I can see that because of some of the things about his mother being white. It is also so very strange to me that when his grandmother died he said he would continue his campaign and do a private ceremony later? As a Christian that is a abomination. (not the word I want but can’t remember the exact one) Then when his mother was dying of cancer he did not know she was that bad? Then he continues on and on about how his mother had to worry about filling out forms for insurance and if they would pay. Why was he not there helping her? The only answer to that is obama’s narcisisst personality. But now he needs her horrible situation to use to shove his universal healthcare on everyone. Her illness fits a need of his now. Nothing will convince me otherwise.
As far as why he did drugs and drink, why do wealthy children who have everything do drugs? Why do movie stars who fall into money get into drugs? I think it is a addictive personality. The reason he cannot give up cigarettes when he was told during the election he needed to stop by his team. Genetics play a big part. If Barack Senior is his true father, he was a alcoholic.
I don’t doubt anything. We know nothing about obama. I take the information and just keep it in my thoughts trying to make a link. Some people say obama’s presidency is historical. I think in more ways than one. I never believed a person with such a nefarious background, unproven track record, one who only has radical friends in his life and business, could be president.
Everything obama does points to his dislike of Americans. That dislike was in reverend wrights speeches, Ayers books, Farakhan sermons and Michelle’s own words.
I believe they did not vet him properly. That they felt he got this far in the senate in Illinois (Illinois being corrupt they never gave much thought to) so his certification of birth was enough for them. Then, (they meaning dnc, pelosi etc,) they had put too much energy into their candidate to back down. They needed to win because as Pelosi said she put all her energy into her party taking control so nothing else mattered. The only thing they could is first not admit they know and second help obama stonewall answering the courts. After they are in control who is going to question obama? Cheney is part of the lawsuit and I think he blew it too. He believed obama had to be properly vetted. I think there was some really evil people who made this happen for obama. Obama even said yesterday he could not pass the senate confirmations to be SCOTUS. He knows what he has pulled off.
Frank Marshall Davis was CPUSA. There is no doubt about that. One article I read said he was the person who made sure members never left and when they did he made life uncomfortable for them. I also believe obama’s grandparents and mother were members. The pedophile thing bothers me that obama’s grandparents left him there to visit. Yeeeuuccchh!
Now we both know there is nary a copy of that video to be found on the web today! It was removed so quickly that the chicken’s head was magically re-attached! It was like she was jumping up onto him as if to express her joy that finally all of their troubles were finally over. I still have questions of why he visited Madelyn’s apartment Dec.30th/08 for a period of approximaely two hours and left from the underground parking. No explanation was ever given for that visit!
Madelyn Dunham actually died Nov 2nd but they held off on announcing the news until it could make the evening news cycle Monday Nov.3rd/08 ad capture as much of the sympathy vote as possible, not that they needed it with ACORN having already worked their magic in so many states beforehand. Madelyn’s ashes were actually dlivered back to her apartment before election coverage began on tv in HI.
It doesn’t matter where she was born, if he was born outside the United States, she was not old enought to transfer citizenship to him. He would have to be naturalized.
I am a Birther who doesn’t think he was born in Kenya. I think he was born in Canada above Seattle.
Think about how a foreign student barely paying for an apartment, one unemployed 18 year old, no health insurance and no medicaid. They (the Dunhams) previously lived in Seattle where a lot of people would go over the border for healthcare because it was “free”. So it would make sense to go and have the baby there. Back then they kept you for nearly a week after the birth and this would explain why her friend talked about Stanley stopping by her house in Seattle a few weeks after Obama was born and didn’t know how to change a diaper.
Now what in the world would Stanley fresh from having a baby herself and toting a newborn in a non-disposable diaper world be doing in Seattle? Unless she was on the way HOME to Hawaii?
Just a theory and I wish I had the money to investigate. But I think people are spinning their wheels on the Kenya thing.
Lucy, I’m pinging you because I don’t know if you have heard my theory yet.
Hi Chief, God help us all if our children and grandchildren care so little for us.
So this is the media report that madelyn’s ashes were back in her apartment before the story ran? Good Grief. If she died at home there had to be a autopsy. How did they get this done so fast? And why? What was the hurry?
I have never heard of anything like this in my life. We know nothing of obama and even his mothers and grandmothers death to me are mysterious. You know what I think? I think it is possible gramdother had to go away but is not gone. It was too coincidental obama went there to see her around the time the courts were being asked to show obams BC. Then a couple of days later she is gone? Obama says, I am continuing my campaign, we will deal with her ashes later?
What do you know of obama’s mother having two social security numbers? And that some say she is still alive and doing business under a alias?
I actually believe that Obama Sr was his father but he was the result of a one night stand and over exuberant celebration of the election of JFK on Nov.1st/60. She hid the pregnancy from her parents and then made a deal with them that she would go back to Seattle, have the baby, give it up for adoption and then go to University of Washington which she had wanted to do all along anyway. Kind of like an “I’ll show you” behaviour on her part to get her own way. Remember Madelyn and Stanley Armour had both started new jobs and her condition would have brought disgrace to the family especially when it became known the child was the result of a one night stand with a black man. She stayed with her mother’s friend in Seattle and the friend made arrangements for her to go to a home for unwed mothers in Vancouver B.C. prior to the birth, where the racial mixures wouldn’t raise as many eyebrows as it would in Seattle. Seattle still had a separate ward and nursery and residential area for blacks at the time. Being at a home for unwed mothers would explain why she didn’t know how to change diapers as per testimony from Susan Blake. She had registered for classes at UW August 21st but didn’t mention this fact to either Susan Blake or Maxine Box and eventhough Maxine Box described Ann as her best friend in high school, Maxine was unaware that Ann was attending UW at the same time as Maxine was. Susan mentioned that Jr was “very new and very pink” when Ann came to visit which meant he had not had his melanin coloring “erupt” yet so he was quite a newborn.
From other sources we know the original flight of Kenyan students left Kenya Sept.5/59 and arrived in NYC Sept.9/59 which is a period of 4 days. Over a period of 4 days on a plane Ann would have learned to change diapers but she would not in a home for unwed mothers where contact between mothers and babies was not encouraged.
I think Madelyn and Stanley paid off Obama Sr to keep his mouth shut and Ann didn’t return to HI until he had left the island. She returned in the fall of 1962 well after he left June 22,1962.
After she gave birth at the home she changed her mind about giving the baby up, phoned her mother’s friend to come and get her and then phoned HI to let them know what she had done, propelling Madelyn into action registering the birth at Vital Stats which generated the birth anouncements in both local papers. She then rented the apartment on Capitol Hill and took the first few courses by correspondence while Jr slept, actually attending classes for the second and third semesters.
Think about it, why didn’t Madelyn’s co-workers even know she had a grandson until he returned to the island at the age of 10, and why did Stanley Armour mention to a co-worker at Hancock Insurance in the 1970s, “Did you ever see the movie “Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner?” Well I’ve lived it” What Ann did affected both of her parents deeply!The registration of birth in HI is for the most part correct except for place of birth and is a red herring, Madelyn HAD to register the birth to hide the fact that her stubborn daughter had gone back on the deal and given birth to a son in Canada. Jr not releasing the original birth certificate is his F you moment as well as an “I don’t have to do anything I don’t want to because I won”. The original certificate in HI will have all the correct info on it but it will show that the family lied right from the start to hide the facts of his birth.
As for any “resemblance to Malcolm X” Jr had to fashion himself after someone and he chose Malcolm X, there is no familial relationship there, just wishful thinking on Jr’s part, the poor lil abandoned boy who had been abandoned by both parents. He simply studied the man and his mannerisms no more no less. As Ann’s friends testified she and her friends would cross the street to avoid contact with any blacks and Mercer Island while the Dunhams lived there was 100% lilly white. Ann never had a boyfriend while in high school if you delve deeply enough into her background beyond the writing of various “presstitutes” so Obama Sr was her case of “puppy love”.
She never went home to HI after the birth, she remained in Seattle never returning to HI until late fall of 1962. The registration of birth with Vital Stats was done by Madelyn and her word was sufficient to accomplish this task at that time of early statehood. The registration of birth generated the birth announcements in the papers.
My understanding is if Stanley Ann Dunham had obama in Hawaii she was too young to confer her citizenship to obama. She had to be 18 for so many months or something.
If stanley ann was not born in the states, then both obama’s parents were not citizens and it could be a slam dunk.
If obama was born in Kenya and stanley brought him back to Hawaii, I would think the same first version would apply. She would be too young to give obama citizenship.
If she brought him back and found problems getting a delayed birth certificate because she was not a citizen would make things a lot clearer. A delayed birth certificate as you mentioned is not citizenship.
It matters to me if she was born in the United States because of all the rumors going around that his grandparents were spies or communists smuggled into the country. To me if you do not confirm each story then the next link may not make any sense. His grandparents records are all locked up as well as stanley ann’s. And the part where his grandfather’s military records are sealed because of 9/11 is too much for me to bear. Especially since they say he was spying and looking into records of was it Boeing? Madelyn worked at boeing.
Let me look and see if stanley armour has a military record online.
I know of the story of Stanley Ann going over the border to have her baby. And your theory of why she was going through Washington is very plausible. There was a rumor that someone found a birth certificate in Canada barack hussein muhammad obama. I have not found it. Wouldn’t stanley ann have obvious signs of being pregnant when she visited her friend? And if stanley ann just took over obama as a adoption she would also not know how to put on a diaper. And who was putting on diapers before she arrived at her friends house?
Why would stanley ann not be with barack obama in Hawaii? And if she only married him for convenience why name barack after him? And didn’t obama say his mother often was on food stamps and welfare? Do you know for sure they did not receive welfare and medicaid?
I think people do have the money to investigate this and have. I think all information is locked up tight. When I went to search it was just a fluke. I knew I would not find anything.
Lucy, I’m pinging you
Oh luuuuccccyyyy!! Hee!
Her body was removed from the apartment within two hours of her death and I really don’t know if an autopsy was performed. You are mentioning to the wrong person about how little some of their own children care for them after what has been happening with me lately but that is a whole other story.
Some of the stories I put down as conspiracy theories such as having more than one SSN or identity theft which is rather prevalent especially in HI. Hubby and I were wondering if both his parents (dead for years now, had gotten their stimulus checks yet, considering they lived in Chicago)
What I didn’t like was the fact that he made the announcement and then delayed for a week before going to see her, leaving all the details and care to his sister. When his mother was sick, he remained campaigning and his grandmother was left to deal with her dying daughter. Maya showed up just a few hours prior to her mother’s death, by which time Ann was already in a coma. Madelyn well into her 70’s had been sitting at her daughter’s bedside day and night all that time. To me that is truly disgusting!
Stuelee? I hope ACORN can spell or hear better.
1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Stanley R Dunham
[Stanley Armour Dunham]
Home in 1930: El Dorado, Butler, Kansas
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1918
Relation to Head-of-house: Grandson
Race: White
Harry E Armour 56
Gabriella Armour 53
Doris E Armour 24
Ralph E Dunham 13
Stanley R Dunham 12
Christopher C Clark 84
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1920 United States Federal Census
about Steulee Dunham
Name: Steulee Dunham
[Stanley Dunham]
[Stanley Armour Dunham]
[Steulee Dunborn]
[Steulee Ralph Junior]
Home in 1920: Wichita Ward 5, Sedgwick, Kansas
Age: 1 year 9 months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1918
Birthplace: Kansas
Relation to Head-of-house: Grandson
Father’s Name: Ralph
Father’s Birth Place: Kansas
Mother’s Name: Ruth
Mother’s Birth Place: Illinois
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Male
Isabille Armour 43
Doris Armour 13
Ralph Dunham 26
Ruth Dunham 19
Ralph Juan Dunham 3 4/12
Steulee Dunham 1 9/12
Christopher C Clark 74
Corrections for Steulee Dunham - 1920 United States Federal Census Add a Correction
Given Name: Stanley
Correction Type: Variation
Explanation: Census taker spelled it wrong.
Stanley Armour Dunham (March 23, 1918 – February 8, 1992) was the maternal grandfather of Barack Obama, the United States Senator from Illinois and Democratic nominee in the 2008 U.S. presidential election. Stanley Dunham was a fourth cousin, twice removed, of President Harry S. Truman. Stanley was also a seventh cousin, once removed, of Vice-President Dick Cheney and a seventh cousin, twice removed, through a common ancestor, Mareen Duvall, a wealthy French Huguenot merchant who immigrated to Maryland in the 1650s. Stanley Armour Dunham was the son of Ralph Waldo Emerson Dunham, Sr. and Ruth Lucille Armour.
There is a record of Stanley Armour’s military record online and there are also pictures of him in uniform, one of him with Madelyn and also one of him and some army buddies posing with a six month old Ann at some social event somewhere on this extremely long thread, sorry I don’t have an exact post number for you. You are forgetting that Stanley Armour’s father worked at Boeing until his death and the story of Stanley Armour being a spy at Boeing is just that a story with no facts to back it up. IIRC Stanley Armour joined up June 15, 1942 and was at Ft Sill for basic training.
The Jr Canadian birth certificate was a joke which I spotted immediately because I am a Canuck and know that each province issues their own b.c. The province of Ontario would NOT issue a b.c. for Barack Hussein Muhammed Obama born August 4, 1961 in Vancouver B.C. signed by Dudley Doright.
U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946
about Stanley A Dunham
Name: Stanley A Dunham
Birth Year: 1918
Race: White, citizen (White)
Nativity State or Country: Kansas
State of Residence: Kansas
County or City: Sedgwick
Enlistment Date: 18 Jan 1942
Enlistment State: Kansas
Enlistment City: Fort Levenworth
Branch: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Branch Code: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Grade: Private
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Component: Army of the United States - includes the following: Voluntary enlistments effective December 8, 1941 and thereafter; One year enlistments of National Guardsman whose State enlistment expires while in the Federal Service; Officers appointed in the Army of
Source: Civil Life
Education: 4 years of high school
Civil Occupation: Salespersons
Marital Status: Married
Height: 71
Weight: 165
chief, you keep saying there are no facts to back up rumors, there are no facts to prove otherwise. I never did see the canadian bc, I just read about it. I have no clue of the other things you are saying. If she gave birth there where would the BC be registered?
I did not know stanley armours father worked at boeing. I have never gone back that far. The story I read was that Stanley armour dunham worked at boeing. I then emailed the writer and said it was madelyn who worked there. Maybe they meant stanleys father?
“Do you know for sure they did not receive welfare and medicaid”
Yes, because the The Food Stamp Act and Welfare Program wasn’t started until 1964 and Medicaid wasn’t started until 1965.
Since they moved to Indonesia in 1966, she couldn’t have been on them for long.
Interesting Chief!
What do you think of my born over the border theory? And reasons why?
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