My understanding is if Stanley Ann Dunham had obama in Hawaii she was too young to confer her citizenship to obama. She had to be 18 for so many months or something.
If stanley ann was not born in the states, then both obama’s parents were not citizens and it could be a slam dunk.
If obama was born in Kenya and stanley brought him back to Hawaii, I would think the same first version would apply. She would be too young to give obama citizenship.
If she brought him back and found problems getting a delayed birth certificate because she was not a citizen would make things a lot clearer. A delayed birth certificate as you mentioned is not citizenship.
It matters to me if she was born in the United States because of all the rumors going around that his grandparents were spies or communists smuggled into the country. To me if you do not confirm each story then the next link may not make any sense. His grandparents records are all locked up as well as stanley ann’s. And the part where his grandfather’s military records are sealed because of 9/11 is too much for me to bear. Especially since they say he was spying and looking into records of was it Boeing? Madelyn worked at boeing.
Let me look and see if stanley armour has a military record online.
I know of the story of Stanley Ann going over the border to have her baby. And your theory of why she was going through Washington is very plausible. There was a rumor that someone found a birth certificate in Canada barack hussein muhammad obama. I have not found it. Wouldn’t stanley ann have obvious signs of being pregnant when she visited her friend? And if stanley ann just took over obama as a adoption she would also not know how to put on a diaper. And who was putting on diapers before she arrived at her friends house?
Why would stanley ann not be with barack obama in Hawaii? And if she only married him for convenience why name barack after him? And didn’t obama say his mother often was on food stamps and welfare? Do you know for sure they did not receive welfare and medicaid?
I think people do have the money to investigate this and have. I think all information is locked up tight. When I went to search it was just a fluke. I knew I would not find anything.
Lucy, I’m pinging you
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Stuelee? I hope ACORN can spell or hear better.
1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Stanley R Dunham
[Stanley Armour Dunham]
Home in 1930: El Dorado, Butler, Kansas
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1918
Relation to Head-of-house: Grandson
Race: White
Harry E Armour 56
Gabriella Armour 53
Doris E Armour 24
Ralph E Dunham 13
Stanley R Dunham 12
Christopher C Clark 84
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1920 United States Federal Census
about Steulee Dunham
Name: Steulee Dunham
[Stanley Dunham]
[Stanley Armour Dunham]
[Steulee Dunborn]
[Steulee Ralph Junior]
Home in 1920: Wichita Ward 5, Sedgwick, Kansas
Age: 1 year 9 months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1918
Birthplace: Kansas
Relation to Head-of-house: Grandson
Father’s Name: Ralph
Father’s Birth Place: Kansas
Mother’s Name: Ruth
Mother’s Birth Place: Illinois
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Male
Isabille Armour 43
Doris Armour 13
Ralph Dunham 26
Ruth Dunham 19
Ralph Juan Dunham 3 4/12
Steulee Dunham 1 9/12
Christopher C Clark 74
Corrections for Steulee Dunham - 1920 United States Federal Census Add a Correction
Given Name: Stanley
Correction Type: Variation
Explanation: Census taker spelled it wrong.
Stanley Armour Dunham (March 23, 1918 – February 8, 1992) was the maternal grandfather of Barack Obama, the United States Senator from Illinois and Democratic nominee in the 2008 U.S. presidential election. Stanley Dunham was a fourth cousin, twice removed, of President Harry S. Truman. Stanley was also a seventh cousin, once removed, of Vice-President Dick Cheney and a seventh cousin, twice removed, through a common ancestor, Mareen Duvall, a wealthy French Huguenot merchant who immigrated to Maryland in the 1650s. Stanley Armour Dunham was the son of Ralph Waldo Emerson Dunham, Sr. and Ruth Lucille Armour.
There is a record of Stanley Armour’s military record online and there are also pictures of him in uniform, one of him with Madelyn and also one of him and some army buddies posing with a six month old Ann at some social event somewhere on this extremely long thread, sorry I don’t have an exact post number for you. You are forgetting that Stanley Armour’s father worked at Boeing until his death and the story of Stanley Armour being a spy at Boeing is just that a story with no facts to back it up. IIRC Stanley Armour joined up June 15, 1942 and was at Ft Sill for basic training.
The Jr Canadian birth certificate was a joke which I spotted immediately because I am a Canuck and know that each province issues their own b.c. The province of Ontario would NOT issue a b.c. for Barack Hussein Muhammed Obama born August 4, 1961 in Vancouver B.C. signed by Dudley Doright.
“Do you know for sure they did not receive welfare and medicaid”
Yes, because the The Food Stamp Act and Welfare Program wasn’t started until 1964 and Medicaid wasn’t started until 1965.
Since they moved to Indonesia in 1966, she couldn’t have been on them for long.
Not quite. If he was born in Hawaii, he's a probably a natural born citizen. (Well maybe not since his "father" was a British National, and not even a "Green Card" holder, but rather here on a student visa).
However if he was not born in the US, and his parents were married, then he's a not US citizen, unless later naturalized. Because in the case of a birth outside the country to a US Citizen parent and a foreign national, the US Citizen parent had to live 5 years in the US after their 14th birthday, (10 total) which his mother had not, (it's now two years, 5 total), in order for the child to be a US Citizen at birth.
Stanley Ann's age would have been irrelevant in that circumstance. If O was born in Hawaii, he'd be a US citizen at birth because the Fourteenth Amendment would apply. Granted, that's a huge "if".