Ok. I deserve it.
Posted on 09/26/2006 12:45:51 AM PDT by SheLion
Delaware County's ban on smoking in most work places has become a problem for some nursing homes, which are both work places for employees and homes for the residents.
The smoking ordinance does not prevent people from smoking in their homes, but it does ban smoking in most public buildings and work spaces.
If a nursing home bans smoking, they could lose federal funding for failing to comply with regulations, but if they allow smoking they could face fines or a lawsuit from the county health department, officials said.
Federal regulations state that if a nursing home changes its policy and bans smoking, it must create an appropriate area for current residents to continue smoking.
Robin Shackleford, a policy and research specialist for the Indiana Health Care Association, said nursing homes could jeopardize their Medicaid and Medicare funding if they follow the county's ban.
"This is not a health issue - it's a patients' rights issue," Shackleford said. "The facilities are caught in the middle of deciding which law to comply with."
To fix the problem, Delaware County commissioners have introduced an ordinance to exempt nursing homes from the smoking ban. But two of the three commissioners say they don't plan to approve the exemption when final action is taken on Oct. 2.
Commissioner Larry Crouch said smoking should not be allowed in nursing homes.
"How many people are in these nursing homes because of a smoking habit?" Crouch asked.
That Phonebook of Anti-Smoking crap that you posted solidifies (in my mind) your ranking as the Uber, Anti-smoking A-hole of Free Republic.
Do you cruise through bars like the Prohibition era's Carrie Nation, carrying a squirt bottle instead of a hatchet?
She didn't pay. That's what I estimated her public services cost the state. Yours cost the same, maybe you have not thought about it that way. The CATO website says that our expenditures on anti poverty programs this year is $12,000 for every American. Of course, you military types are the most expensive because you can retire at 40. :) When people confuse their copay with actual cost we have a big problem.
Yeh, nice smartazz answer.
Strike one.
Care to go for strike 2?
That Phonebook of Anti-Smoking crap that you posted solidifies (in my mind) your ranking as the Uber, Anti-smoking A-hole of Free Republic.
Do you cruise through bars like the Prohibition era's Carrie Nation, carrying a squirt bottle instead of a hatchet?
Get this: he used to SMOKE! Me thinks he just hates the rest of us because we still enjoy cigarettes!
It doesn't matter. The nursing home is now their home, and they're at an age, and state of health, where quiting a life long habit isn't going to do any good. Also, these people have little else to do, so allow them to do what makes them happy, for what little time they have left.
No no. When and if I get sick, my insurance company pays for me. NOT the state! Where did you get that idea? I DO pay my premiums every year!!
"YOU MILITARY TYPES???" I will have you know my hubby served 26 years in the military and served in Viet Nam and has two Purple Hearts from being shot twice. He served 13 months over there.
He ended his career as a First Shirt of Transportation and worked his butt off during Desert Storm getting troops in and out of here.
Us Military types indeed!
I PAY MY PREMIUMS. NOT THE DAMN STATE! AND I AM 'NOT' ON WELFARE THANK YOU!
It doesn't matter. The nursing home is now their home, and they're at an age, and state of health, where quiting a life long habit isn't going to do any good. Also, these people have little else to do, so allow them to do what makes them happy, for what little time they have left.
Who said that? "I" didn't say that.
I hate this throw away society we have where we ship the elderly off to some "institution" because we can't be bothered to help them out in their time of need, like they did for us once upon a time. There's something wrong about that, IMHO.
Tsk, tsk, tsk....
50 lashes......... with a wet cigarrette. ;-)
Well, clean up the way you talk about it so you don't sound like a socialist idiot. btw, soldiers are not the only ones who serve for 26 years.At least they should appreciate the sweet deal they get. So drop the caps.
I hate this throw away society we have where we ship the elderly off to some "institution" because we can't be bothered to help them out in their time of need, like they did for us once upon a time. There's something wrong about that, IMHO.
Well, from what I know about nursing homes and if I ever need to go into one........JUST SHOOT ME. heh!
Ok. I deserve it.
Nobody has to work in nursing homes; employment is still voluntary.
You sound a little jealous! LOL!
HERE! Drop this!
Take a lesson!
Also, for your information, I lost my hubby in 2003................
So if we elect you king, all this will be fixed?
All raycpa's little list proved was that people with oxygen tanks and dimentia aren't being supervised very well in some nursing homes. Quite a few of the people were smoking where they weren't even supposed to be smoking and no ban will prevent idiots from being idiots. These incidents would have happened anyway even with a ban. So we make responsible senior citizens suffer with rules that won't prevent idiots from being idiots, but hey they are 'evil' smokers so let's take away all their rights.
I agree, I am not a smoker but if someone has to live out their days in a nursing home and they want to smoke I say let them....
Agree. Many in nursing homes have given up everything. If they've managed to live so long and enjoy a smoke or a drink in their old age it's the least we can allow.
One bad apples spoils it for the whole bunch......
I feel sorry for you.
It is not my intention to be mean, but this is how I see you.
May the good Lord be with you and you are in my prayers.
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