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To: SheLion; Raycpa

All raycpa's little list proved was that people with oxygen tanks and dimentia aren't being supervised very well in some nursing homes. Quite a few of the people were smoking where they weren't even supposed to be smoking and no ban will prevent idiots from being idiots. These incidents would have happened anyway even with a ban. So we make responsible senior citizens suffer with rules that won't prevent idiots from being idiots, but hey they are 'evil' smokers so let's take away all their rights.


57 posted on 09/26/2006 8:02:15 AM PDT by Elyse
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To: Elyse
So we make responsible senior citizens suffer with rules that won't prevent idiots from being idiots, but hey they are 'evil' smokers so let's take away all their rights.

One bad apples spoils it for the whole bunch......

59 posted on 09/26/2006 8:09:33 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: Elyse
These incidents would have happened anyway even with a ban.

I never said it should be banned. I said fires from smoking is a serious issue and the smokers on this thread threw a fit over it. The irrationality that fires from smoking is not a serious issue demonstrates just how fanatical these folks are.

61 posted on 09/26/2006 8:16:55 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Elyse; SheLion; Raycpa

Treu. My aunt died in a nursing home that was so clean and looked like a frikkin' swanky hotel. She dies because she had some food hidden (she weighed 80 lbs when she does BTW) and aspirated it at night and choked to death because the little CNA thought she had a DNR and she and an RN did nothing to clear her airway - she lay there for some while choking to death on her won vomit according to the autopsy. Had myself and my sister not badgered my mother to get an autopsy done before she was cremated, the nursing home would have gotten by scot free. Her estate won a large lawsuit against them (Round Rock TX), the cna was fired and the nursing home was cited big time by the state. When you have older people and are taking care of them, as in a nursing home, you have to be vigilant. The people who were burned per Raycpa's post were not supervised as they should have been. Aunt Bert was on oxygen and the nurses certainly made sure she did not have the oxygen on when she smoked.


77 posted on 09/26/2006 9:36:51 AM PDT by gopheraj
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