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This is the key sentence…

The rise of pop, hip-hop, and rap realigned critical and commercial preferences, infusing mainstream music with new-fangled stylings and technical innovation.

In other words, during the Clinton Administration critics (ie the leftist jackwagons at Rolling Stone etc.) collaborated with record companies and MTV. They colluded to forge a consensus that ran counter to the historical animosity of music fans and critics.

If that’s right, then pop may have peaked with the Eagles destroying Taylor Swift’s team in rhe Super Bowl.

Further, with youths becoming more conservative, rock may start ascending. And yes, old people, there IS great new rock…go to https://bandcamp.com/discover/rock and find great unsigned bands.

1 posted on 05/04/2025 7:01:31 PM PDT by DoodleBob
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It died after the release of Abbey Road and the dissolution of the Beatles.

After that, it became louder, darker, more explicitly drug influenced, and monotonous.


2 posted on 05/04/2025 7:03:39 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: DoodleBob; FRiends

Stranded on a Dessert Island, but somehow WITH electricity?

ONE record album limit?

Pink Floyd. Dark Side of the Moon. Hands Down.

Any arguments? ;)


3 posted on 05/04/2025 7:07:40 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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Hip hop and rap are not music.


4 posted on 05/04/2025 7:09:54 PM PDT by tet68 ("We would not die in that man's company that fears his fellowship to die with us." Henry V.)
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To: DoodleBob; LS

Feels like one for Larry Schweikart to make a comment.


6 posted on 05/04/2025 7:11:52 PM PDT by laxcoach (The secret to happiness is a bait pen full of pinfish.)
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It will never die.


7 posted on 05/04/2025 7:13:46 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ123T3zD2k


9 posted on 05/04/2025 7:14:11 PM PDT by BipolarBob (AA told me to quit hanging around drunks. So I quit going to AA, cuz that's where they were.)
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Rick Beato sees all, knows all, tells all.

How Corruption and Greed Led to the Downfall of Rock Music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reesdiAbvk4

What Killed Rock & Roll? (Hint: It Wasn’t Hip Hop)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0ycwnJArHQ

What Happened To Music Between 1994 and 2000?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OUCSSVAzG0

Why are all the bands disappearing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_DjmtR0Xls

The Real Reason Why Music Is Getting Worse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bZ0OSEViyo


10 posted on 05/04/2025 7:17:10 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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The rise of rap, specifically the abominable trap variety, after Trump’s first election has virtually destroyed the music scene and infected all of Western culture like a virus. My own Gen Z kids were affected as well, although they now have freed themselves from it. Rap is absolute poison. This is not the fun, harmless RUN DMC variety of the 80s. It’s pure evil.


14 posted on 05/04/2025 7:18:02 PM PDT by montag813
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Hold ma Beer.


15 posted on 05/04/2025 7:19:02 PM PDT by FreeperCell
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Isn’t this more about radio dying?


17 posted on 05/04/2025 7:21:16 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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Look at the graph.

Rock & Roll died in 1985 the moment the industry promoted Starship’s “We Built this City.”

Any industry or genre that produced that trash deserves to die.


18 posted on 05/04/2025 7:22:36 PM PDT by Round Earther
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That chart is not entirely accurate.

Rap/Hip Hop did not become a musical genre until 1978.


19 posted on 05/04/2025 7:25:31 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Nobody elected Elon Musk? Well nobody elected the Deep State either.)
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KSHE 95 - Real Rock Radio

Those were the days!


22 posted on 05/04/2025 7:27:19 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Democrats are the Party of anger, hate and violence.)
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It’s all been played a thousand times...It’s all been done. Rocks best times are in the distant past. Ferrrget about it.


23 posted on 05/04/2025 7:28:50 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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We all knew then and we still know now. It was “The Day the Music Died.”

On February 3, 1959, American rock and roll musicians Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens, and “The Big Bopper” J. P. Richardson were all killed in a plane crash near Clear Lake, Iowa, together with pilot Roger Peterson.[a][1][2] The event became known as “The Day the Music Died” after singer-songwriter Don McLean referred to it as such in his 1971 song “American Pie”.


24 posted on 05/04/2025 7:29:08 PM PDT by Veto! (Trump Is Superman)
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I’d guess around 1992....frigging grundge showed up, took over the airwaves and when that finally died out traditional pop music was dead.


26 posted on 05/04/2025 7:29:17 PM PDT by mowowie
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When Did Rock & Roll Die?

By its peak in 1983, rock music dominated radio play and accounted for over 60% of the Billboard Top 100.

Now wait a minute...Which one are you talking about? Rock'n Roll and "rock" are two distinctly different things.

Rock'n Roll happened in the 50s and 60s and faded out as rock came into vogue. Typical rock'n rollers are Little Richard, Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, Chuck Barry etc. It had such aspects as more complicated rhythms, walking bass, staccato piano, a quick tempo and vocal harmonies. It seemingly emerged out of swing and blues. (The Blues Had a Baby and They Named it Rock'n Roll)

Rock is typified by a simple 4/4 beat, a thumping one-note bass line, and loud buzzing guitars.

Several quality bands from the 70s and 80s should have had another category name besides rock.

33 posted on 05/04/2025 7:33:52 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (You show me a RAT, I'll show you a felon.)
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To: DoodleBob

1975


36 posted on 05/04/2025 7:35:18 PM PDT by Jolla
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🎸🥁🎹🎶

Just wanted to make sure this one didn’t slip past you.

44 posted on 05/04/2025 7:45:31 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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IMO, the record industry decided to push (c)rap and all but cut off Rock from airplay. They did this despite MASSIVE consumer demand for Rock. Just check your radio dial. You will see all kinds of classic rock stations that play things from the 60s-90s. OK. Where’s the new stuff? They refuse to play it. Don’t tell me there are no rock bands. Don’t tell me there is no market demand - what with all those classic rock stations. So where is it?

I first heard (c)rap when I was in high school in the mid 80s. I hated it immediately and have refused to listen to it or anything that even remotely smacks of it ever since. Its not music. Its just guys talking in bad rhymes I’d have been embarrassed to come up with when I was in 3rd grade, with a jackhammer in the background.


45 posted on 05/04/2025 7:49:36 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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