Posted on 02/19/2022 8:36:01 AM PST by MNDude
As long as I have been alive, the The Mesopotamian Civilization has been considered the oldest civilization. I'm curious what is the criteria to be considered a civilization? Is it really the oldest, or is something that archeologists do not wish to update their books after spending a lifetime devoted to this teaching.
The Mesopotamian civilization dated back to 6500 BC, but the Jiahu in China dated back to 7000 BC.
Gobekli Tepe, in Turkey, was a temple was built along a grand geometric plan in 9000 BC.
I'm curious to hear an opinion from any archeology\ anthropology experts here.
“Civilation” = writing as communication
Mesop has some of the earliest evidence of writing
No cities, no civilization.
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“Gobekli Tepe, in Turkey, was a temple was built along a grand geometric plan in 9000 BC.”
The place is amazing and they haven’t excavated all of it yet.
Because the Mesotopmanians were always out on their front steps yelling at kids to stay off their lawns.
Because we have their writings and can read them—History is all about writing.
Because we have their writings and can read them—History is all about writing.
Because we have their writings and can read them—History is all about writing.
This is Graham Hancock’s field. There’s plenty of evidence of Ice Age civilizations that are currently under water off the coasts of India and Japan.
It’s because there weren’t simply a few potamians, there was a whole Mesopotamians
WOW! I just looked it up, and they have only excavated only 5%! Sadly, if they are doing only 5% every 30 years, I don’t expect to be around once they’ve excavated 100%.
Listen dude, you don’t wanna mess with the Potamians.
History, like science, is constantly being revised. Stuff we read about in the News and even some history publications either reflects cor orthodox view, or its conjecture about how new facts might fit into a new orthodoxy.
It’s really that simple.
Just this morning I finished “Old Testament Theology for Christians”. I cannot recommend it highly enough. But he references Mesopotamia a LOT, as well as Levant. And points out the strong similarities with - and differences from - their cultural and religious beliefs and Israel’s.
You sent me down the rabbit hole and I ended up here - https://www.ancienthistorylists.com/ancient-civilizations/10-oldest-ancient-civilizations-ever-existed/.
There is a great discussion in the comments on what defines a civilization. Might be a place to check out.
They were the first to brew beer. You can’t have a civilization without beer.
I see the earth as an old painting in this way: Sometimes a painting would be put to canvas, only to be whitewashed and another painting would be put on top of it.
I see the surface of the earth as a canvas upon which God created something. He then “whitewashed it” and put something new on it. And we have no idea how many iterations took place.
Our particular painting began with all the writings and artifacts we find on or near the surface. However, if we carefully peal away the top painting, we find one under it. And one under that one. And eventually we find a layer with things likd Dinosaurs, and we go deeper to find more.
And to be clear, if our modern planet was to be hit with a large enough cosmic event, though the planet may survive, all remnant of modern technology would be wiped out. Or virtually all remnant. This may explain some OOP artifacts.
So, though we know a lot, do we really have any clue how long ago there may have actually have been technological societies on this very planet? Our forefathers didn’t know North and south america existed, nor were they privy to the significantly advanced culture in North America. What do we not yet know about the distant history of our plenet and civilizations that preceded us.
The bible shares information back to Genesis 1:2, but we have no clue what happened in the time period of indeterminant length between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2. We can only speculate, and let archeological discovery lead the way.
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