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Vanity | 1/20/21 | Billo Comola

Posted on 01/20/2021 11:01:54 AM PST by ragamuffin

Who and or what was behind the tremendously professional ongoing disinformation campaign aimed at giving false hope to Trump supporters under the pseudonym "QAnon." It seemed to have begun, or at least that is when it was first brought to my attention, after November 3rd.  Any number of individuals have said the CIA was behind it. True or not I have no idea - but it was extraordinarily well done, the disinformation credibly to the point of believably - which many did believe - up to the moment of Trump's departure from the White House. Who would have set out to further attempt to make certain the President would be removed from the job we elected him for? Probably the very same people behind the four year effort to remove him in the first place. The question is who? It is easy to say "The Swamp," but within that collective morass, it was led, and therein remains the question: WHO? Who provided cover over four years for unrelenting street riots across the country. Who provided the misdirection and misinformation while co-conspirators in the US Congress attempted to railroad Trump over out-right fabrications spun to look like the real deal to the uninformed masses? Who gave the legacy media  cover to spin lie after lie for four years? This list of charades goes on and on, but the main thing is WHO? Answer the who - then a bigger, and the real question, becomes the WHY? Oh in parting, I do not plan one committing suicide - ever.


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: ajoke; anotherstupidvanity; elections; hopiumaddicts; q; qanon; qtards; shortbuskids; vanity
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1 posted on 01/20/2021 11:01:54 AM PST by ragamuffin
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To: ragamuffin

First Q post on 4chan was October of 2017.


2 posted on 01/20/2021 11:04:08 AM PST by FroedrickVonFreepenstein
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To: ragamuffin

Trust Trump’s Plan!

Trust Sessions!


3 posted on 01/20/2021 11:05:11 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Allegations of vote fraud cause you to 1)Provide contrary evidence or 2)Censor and erect razor wire)
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To: FroedrickVonFreepenstein

October Revolution 1917.............................RUSSIA..........................


4 posted on 01/20/2021 11:06:02 AM PST by Red Badger (TREASON is the REASON for the SLEAZIN'.................................)
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To: ragamuffin

Who? The Looonies.


5 posted on 01/20/2021 11:06:28 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: ragamuffin

See the 1920’s communist Operation TRUST. They did the same thing: Gave people hope and told them to take no action and Trust the Plan.

So, who is Q? A communist operative, obviously.


6 posted on 01/20/2021 11:07:04 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: ragamuffin

I’m glad they’ve been exposed. About time.


7 posted on 01/20/2021 11:07:19 AM PST by NWFree
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To: ragamuffin

I’ve never followed this stuff and then I started seeing it appearing on FR.

It was clearly flaky stuff, but some people here seemed to believe it. And they were very aggressive in attacking anyone who didn’t believe what they called “the plan.” So I wouldn’t be in the least surprised if Q, whatever it is, turned out to be a trap or disruptor set up by some agency.


8 posted on 01/20/2021 11:08:03 AM PST by livius
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To: ragamuffin
Most likely deep state, they know the most about Soviet PsyOp techniques. They aggressively recruit Russian Majors. I know because my son had an engineering/ Russian double major and was recruited by NSA/CIA etc. But could be even more sinister...

Daniel 8: 23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up. 24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
9 posted on 01/20/2021 11:08:25 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Uncle Miltie

It was a CIA sponsored dis-information campaign that was detailed several times on 4Chan. i saw posts in November stating that the election was going to be stolen, we were supposed to know it was stolen so we would riot. the riots would be blamed on white supremacists so they could institute a crackdown on republicans and go after the second amendment.
So far its playing out just about like that. We lived it.


10 posted on 01/20/2021 11:09:02 AM PST by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Who? The Looonies.
What is the Loonie?
11 posted on 01/20/2021 11:09:26 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: ragamuffin

Brian Cates, an admitted anti-Trumper, was one of the original people espousing these views on Twit.


12 posted on 01/20/2021 11:10:45 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix) )
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To: ragamuffin

My feeling is that it had to be an Anti Trump person in deep state. A fair amount of inside info was divulged/alluded to in order to establish some credibility but it was embellished with enough disinformation to the point of being manipulative psyops in order direct his supporters towards delusional expectations, and radicalism.


13 posted on 01/20/2021 11:10:49 AM PST by LibFreeUSA ( )
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To: ragamuffin
Not CIA.

Who (might) Q actually be?

Frederick Brennan, the creator of 8chan, has been going to news outlets for months claiming that his former business partner Jim Watkins likely currently controls the Q account—claims that have led to the publication of two major investigations over the last week. In 2014, a year after founding 8chan, Brennan moved to the Philippines to work on the site with Watkins at his pig farm in Manila. Brennan ceded ownership of 8chan to Watkins in 2015. The two had a falling-out after 8chan was linked to several mass shootings, and Brennan tried to get Watkins to take it down. Watkins would eventually invoke a criminal libel law against Brennan, which forced him to flee the Philippines.

In an interview with the tech podcast Reply All, Brennan says he believes that a longtime conspiracy theorist from Johannesburg named Paul Furber is actually the first person who started posting as Q back in 2017. (Furber has denied this.) Furber publicly acted as Q’s interpreter and spokesperson on venues like 8chan and Infowars. According to Brennan’s telling, Watkins’ son Ron was able to wrestle control of the Q account away from Furber at the beginning of 2018 using his login privileges as the site’s administrator.

Jim and Ron Watkins have denied that they’re behind the account or that they have any direct contact with Q. However, Jim Watkins has been very outwardly supportive of Q; he’s founded a QAnon super PAC and wore a Q pin during his testimony before Congress about 8chan in 2019.

Why do people suspect the Watkins family is behind Q?

Nothing has surfaced definitively proving that the two Watkinses currently control the Q account, though Brennan has presented evidence that he says at the very least proves that they have an overwhelming amount of influence over it. Even before Brennan gave his most recent interviews to the media, people began suspecting that the Watkins family was linked to Q. When 8chan’s service providers forced it to go offline in August 2019, Q didn’t post any drops for months, not even on other platforms, seemingly waiting until the message board came back as 8kun in November.

Last month, anti-Q activists discovered the fact that 8kun shares an IP address with QMap, the most popular Q drop aggregator, suggesting that the Watkinses were behind both sites. Yet the developer of QMap, a man living in New Jersey, denies any connection to the Watkinses. Brennan has said that the shared IP strongly implies that the Watkinses have control over the two primary platforms through which Q disseminates drops, though again there is no definitive proof. If this were the case, though, the Watkinses could effectively become Q at any time by accessing the account on 8kun and spreading the message on QMap.

Brennan also points to the moment when Furber allegedly lost control over Q as further proof of the Watkinses’ influence. In the early days of QAnon, the main 8chan account wasn’t particularly secure, so people would often break in and post as Q. Furber took on the role of verifying who was or wasn’t the real Q because he ran the particular forum on 8chan where the drops were posted, and so he could see users’ IP addresses. In 2018, however, someone began posting as Q who Furber said was a fraud. According to this telling, Ron Watkins stepped in at that point and said that he can also identify who the real Q is because he’s 8chan’s administrator. Watkins ended up claiming that this supposedly fraudulent Q was actually the real deal. He also created a new forum for this Q to post outside of Furber’s purview. Watkins is now the only person who can verify who the real Q is, giving him even more control over the movement.

14 posted on 01/20/2021 11:11:04 AM PST by Wayne07
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To: ragamuffin

I never bought into “Q,” or whatever/whomever that person was. The entire thing about that phenomenon reeked to high heaven.


15 posted on 01/20/2021 11:11:45 AM PST by 60Gunner (The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato)
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To: calljack

Totally agree with your summation.


16 posted on 01/20/2021 11:12:02 AM PST by LibFreeUSA ( )
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To: ragamuffin

A Russian or Chinese psyop targeting the weak minded and those who put personality (and need for a Strong Leader) over actual country.

Show me someone who believes in a pedophile pizza ring and I’ll show you an useful idiot in service to our enemies.


17 posted on 01/20/2021 11:12:55 AM PST by RedStateRocker ("Never miss a good chance to Shut Up" - Will Rogers)
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To: All

It reminded me of this Bolshevik operation:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Trust

“Trust the plan.” “Trust Sessions.”

Hundreds of thousands of hours people spent following that instead of ... registering voters. Suing over the expansion of mail in voting. Checking out Dominion BEFORE the election.

Was a total LARP and knew people who were still ‘true believers’ up until the swearing in.

Was like talking to a Japanese soldier fighting World War II on some island in the pacific in 1949...


18 posted on 01/20/2021 11:14:22 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: ragamuffin
There were many respectable conservatives who had serious questions about the election. Kenneth Starr, for example, thought it was clear that several states changed their election rules illegally. Then there were the numerous testimonies from election workers and observers citing various suspicious or illegal activities.

The most questionable assertions involved some of the claims about the voting machines, and possibly left-wing disinformation specialists fostered those spurious claims in order to discredit everything else.
19 posted on 01/20/2021 11:16:45 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: ragamuffin

None of you have actually read the Q posts, have you? Because the things you’re saying comprised the “essence” of the Q instructions, are in fact the direct OPPOSITE of the Q drops themselves.


20 posted on 01/20/2021 11:17:12 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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