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1 posted on 01/20/2021 11:01:54 AM PST by ragamuffin
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First Q post on 4chan was October of 2017.


2 posted on 01/20/2021 11:04:08 AM PST by FroedrickVonFreepenstein
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Trust Trump’s Plan!

Trust Sessions!


3 posted on 01/20/2021 11:05:11 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Allegations of vote fraud cause you to 1)Provide contrary evidence or 2)Censor and erect razor wire)
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Who? The Looonies.


5 posted on 01/20/2021 11:06:28 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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See the 1920’s communist Operation TRUST. They did the same thing: Gave people hope and told them to take no action and Trust the Plan.

So, who is Q? A communist operative, obviously.


6 posted on 01/20/2021 11:07:04 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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I’m glad they’ve been exposed. About time.


7 posted on 01/20/2021 11:07:19 AM PST by NWFree
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I’ve never followed this stuff and then I started seeing it appearing on FR.

It was clearly flaky stuff, but some people here seemed to believe it. And they were very aggressive in attacking anyone who didn’t believe what they called “the plan.” So I wouldn’t be in the least surprised if Q, whatever it is, turned out to be a trap or disruptor set up by some agency.


8 posted on 01/20/2021 11:08:03 AM PST by livius
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Most likely deep state, they know the most about Soviet PsyOp techniques. They aggressively recruit Russian Majors. I know because my son had an engineering/ Russian double major and was recruited by NSA/CIA etc. But could be even more sinister...

Daniel 8: 23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up. 24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
9 posted on 01/20/2021 11:08:25 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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Brian Cates, an admitted anti-Trumper, was one of the original people espousing these views on Twit.


12 posted on 01/20/2021 11:10:45 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix) )
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My feeling is that it had to be an Anti Trump person in deep state. A fair amount of inside info was divulged/alluded to in order to establish some credibility but it was embellished with enough disinformation to the point of being manipulative psyops in order direct his supporters towards delusional expectations, and radicalism.


13 posted on 01/20/2021 11:10:49 AM PST by LibFreeUSA ( )
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Not CIA.

Who (might) Q actually be?

Frederick Brennan, the creator of 8chan, has been going to news outlets for months claiming that his former business partner Jim Watkins likely currently controls the Q account—claims that have led to the publication of two major investigations over the last week. In 2014, a year after founding 8chan, Brennan moved to the Philippines to work on the site with Watkins at his pig farm in Manila. Brennan ceded ownership of 8chan to Watkins in 2015. The two had a falling-out after 8chan was linked to several mass shootings, and Brennan tried to get Watkins to take it down. Watkins would eventually invoke a criminal libel law against Brennan, which forced him to flee the Philippines.

In an interview with the tech podcast Reply All, Brennan says he believes that a longtime conspiracy theorist from Johannesburg named Paul Furber is actually the first person who started posting as Q back in 2017. (Furber has denied this.) Furber publicly acted as Q’s interpreter and spokesperson on venues like 8chan and Infowars. According to Brennan’s telling, Watkins’ son Ron was able to wrestle control of the Q account away from Furber at the beginning of 2018 using his login privileges as the site’s administrator.

Jim and Ron Watkins have denied that they’re behind the account or that they have any direct contact with Q. However, Jim Watkins has been very outwardly supportive of Q; he’s founded a QAnon super PAC and wore a Q pin during his testimony before Congress about 8chan in 2019.

Why do people suspect the Watkins family is behind Q?

Nothing has surfaced definitively proving that the two Watkinses currently control the Q account, though Brennan has presented evidence that he says at the very least proves that they have an overwhelming amount of influence over it. Even before Brennan gave his most recent interviews to the media, people began suspecting that the Watkins family was linked to Q. When 8chan’s service providers forced it to go offline in August 2019, Q didn’t post any drops for months, not even on other platforms, seemingly waiting until the message board came back as 8kun in November.

Last month, anti-Q activists discovered the fact that 8kun shares an IP address with QMap, the most popular Q drop aggregator, suggesting that the Watkinses were behind both sites. Yet the developer of QMap, a man living in New Jersey, denies any connection to the Watkinses. Brennan has said that the shared IP strongly implies that the Watkinses have control over the two primary platforms through which Q disseminates drops, though again there is no definitive proof. If this were the case, though, the Watkinses could effectively become Q at any time by accessing the account on 8kun and spreading the message on QMap.

Brennan also points to the moment when Furber allegedly lost control over Q as further proof of the Watkinses’ influence. In the early days of QAnon, the main 8chan account wasn’t particularly secure, so people would often break in and post as Q. Furber took on the role of verifying who was or wasn’t the real Q because he ran the particular forum on 8chan where the drops were posted, and so he could see users’ IP addresses. In 2018, however, someone began posting as Q who Furber said was a fraud. According to this telling, Ron Watkins stepped in at that point and said that he can also identify who the real Q is because he’s 8chan’s administrator. Watkins ended up claiming that this supposedly fraudulent Q was actually the real deal. He also created a new forum for this Q to post outside of Furber’s purview. Watkins is now the only person who can verify who the real Q is, giving him even more control over the movement.

14 posted on 01/20/2021 11:11:04 AM PST by Wayne07
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I never bought into “Q,” or whatever/whomever that person was. The entire thing about that phenomenon reeked to high heaven.


15 posted on 01/20/2021 11:11:45 AM PST by 60Gunner (The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato)
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A Russian or Chinese psyop targeting the weak minded and those who put personality (and need for a Strong Leader) over actual country.

Show me someone who believes in a pedophile pizza ring and I’ll show you an useful idiot in service to our enemies.


17 posted on 01/20/2021 11:12:55 AM PST by RedStateRocker ("Never miss a good chance to Shut Up" - Will Rogers)
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There were many respectable conservatives who had serious questions about the election. Kenneth Starr, for example, thought it was clear that several states changed their election rules illegally. Then there were the numerous testimonies from election workers and observers citing various suspicious or illegal activities.

The most questionable assertions involved some of the claims about the voting machines, and possibly left-wing disinformation specialists fostered those spurious claims in order to discredit everything else.
19 posted on 01/20/2021 11:16:45 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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None of you have actually read the Q posts, have you? Because the things you’re saying comprised the “essence” of the Q instructions, are in fact the direct OPPOSITE of the Q drops themselves.


20 posted on 01/20/2021 11:17:12 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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Be careful! They’ll soon be here in full force insulting anyone not aligned with their beliefs. I’m genuinely surprised FR mods allow that stuff. I don’t mean allowing their questionable beliefs - free speech is a tenet - but rather the rampant insults. No dialogue ...just diatribe and childish insults. One was even insulting peoples’ mothers. I hope the reason they’re allowed to insult at will is not because FR leadership is also part of Q. That would be a shame.


22 posted on 01/20/2021 11:19:13 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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said, "Who gave the legacy media cover to spin lie after lie for four years?"

The two Q groups Quidam 1997-1999 and this one Q-Clarence or the one you're aware of now "Q" for short both used guerrilla marketing to give out news. If they're wrong about something doesn't make it a lie(IE: Trust bad people.) As with the news media they do actually lie everyday(no evidence of ...)

Both did help with informing people just as the talking heads do but in a more interactive way.

24 posted on 01/20/2021 11:19:35 AM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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I think Q was just a troll who got his jollies stringing people along. I do not believe Q was an attempt to make people fail to take action by being told to "trust Trump's plan". Enthusiasm and activity for Trump were off the charts.

There are some people who love to see how many people they can delude. And there are people who like to believe they have "secret knowledge" that others don't have. You hear your relative say they are depressed because Biden stole the election? You snicker to yourself and think "if they only knew what I know". I used to feel a bit that way when I believed in JFK assassination theories. With every new theory, I was getting "secret knowledge" that the masses didn't know. I eventually came to believe that Oswald killed JFK.

A lot of Q followers were deluded into thinking something wonderful was going to happen and Biden would be arrested during the inauguration. I wish it had come to pass. Would have been nice, but it was just a hoax. Somewhere, someone is laughing his or her ass off about how well the hoax worked.

27 posted on 01/20/2021 11:21:22 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (11/3-11/4/2020 - The USA became a banana republic.)
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It is funny how everyone seems to think the Q thing was to get people to NOT do anything. While I admittedly do not know anything about it, one thing is clear. It drove many normal citizens to start digging for truth on their own. And I do believe that normal people searching for the real truth on their own, not being reliant on the MSM to be the giver of truth, is probably not a bad thing.

If the deep state wanted people to do nothing, the last thing they should’ve done is speak in riddles and ask citizens to find the truth themselves.


28 posted on 01/20/2021 11:21:23 AM PST by walkingdead (We are sacrificing American youth's future on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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Wishful thinking or is it?


35 posted on 01/20/2021 11:25:41 AM PST by TruthWillWin (DJT will be sworn in 1/20 under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Dem Party)
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Became aware at Thanksgiving 2017. Never bought into it a 100%. It sure has done much damage. Very sad.


37 posted on 01/20/2021 11:28:36 AM PST by PeachyKeen
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