Posted on 04/22/2019 10:28:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
It's an age often described as one of social unrest, leading to an "apocalyptic nightmare of violence, warfare, and cannibalism." A Neolithic mass grave in Germany shows the idea may not be far wrong... Christian Meyer and his fellow researchers now believe they have enough evidence to explain "conclusively" what happened at the site of a mass grave in Schöneck-Kilianstädten, near Frankfurt, around 5207-4849 BC. If they are right, their findings may help our understanding of early social unrest among the first Central European farmers of the Neolithic era... The site at Schöneck-Kilianstädten reveals a "new violence-related pattern: the intentional and systematic breaking of lower limbs." At least 26 people at the site were tortured and systematically beaten before being thrown into a pit. Most of the victims were men and children aged between 12 and 13 years. The researchers found evidence of only two women, estimated to have been older than 40. It suggests any younger women -- for example, mothers of the children -- were abducted... Their theory chimes with evidence found at two other Neolithic massacre sites: one at Talheim, Germany and the other at Asparn/Schletz, Austria... Among the men and children in the mass grave, Meyer and the team found many damaged skulls, fractured calves and shins... Meyer says the three sites together prove that as early as 7000 years ago, acts of "collective violence" were common. This period also saw humans begin to settle, to build and to live off the land and witnessed the widespread flourishing of a form of pottery known as Linear Pottery culture.
(Excerpt) Read more at dw.com ...
There is a profound difference between ‘ civilization’ and ‘civilized.’
Notre Dame Cathedral was built in the ‘Dark Ages.’
I believe slavery made a comeback along with the return of pagan influences of the Renaissance.
Between the time when the oceans drank Atlantis and the rise of the sons of Aryas, there was an age undreamed of. And unto this, Conan, destined to wear the jeweled crown of Aquilonia upon a troubled brow. It is I, his chronicler, who alone can tell thee of his saga. Let me tell you of the days of high adventure!
“To believe we as a species have ascended to a level above those before us...”
Deutsche Welle is a German publication and to their credit, Germany does a pretty good job of acknowledging its not-so-distant barbaric Nazi past.
This grim discovery supports my theory on how people started farming. It was a secert discovered during warfare. One side of a fight , in desperate need of food, asked the simple question of how did plants get started and figured it out . A similar thing happened during WW1. Germany was cut off from fertilizer so the Haber process of getting nitrogen from air turned into ammonia was invented.
Whats the big deal?
They were just having the usual Oktoberfest.
Nothing has changed much today, except that the ambulances and hospitals prevent death and lasting injuries for the most part.
Women who want to be abducted just attend Oktoberfest. Kids 12 to 13 are kicked out. And older women have a blast.
Re: A similar thing happened during WW1. Germany was cut off from fertilizer so the Haber process of getting nitrogen from air turned into ammonia was invented.
In World War 2, the Germans also developed industrial-scale coal liquefaction, for motor fuel, after their primary oil source, Romania, fell to the Russians.
“What these studies fail to mention of course is how the Christianization of the world...however much later...changed things. Dramatically. It was the primary civilizing force of Europe.”
You are EXACTLY correct!
now that you mention it the Black Sea Flood and farmers from anatolyia moving to europe about 7 thousand years ago do coincide
nice catch.
any evidence besides the coincidence of the two events?
I think the Far Easterners would object. Lots of cities, plenty of civilized areas. The white folks just went a bit further, but were not unique.
Ryan and Pitman made the suggestion in their book, citing the sudden appearance of fortification and/or violent ends to various older settlements in Anatolia, M.E., and possibly elsewhere. It's not unlikely that the population of that now-submerged area was very large, due to then-current climate possibly as large as the surrounding areas put together.
Rome and its empire introduced civilization to a large chunk of western Europe, and it did it during its pagan phase. You want a religious discussion, carry it over into the substantial religion forum here on FR.
Without getting into a discussion whether the Dark Ages really were dark, Notre Dame was not built then. The building was started during the 12th Century Renaissance, when high Medieval culture began to flourish.
Children 12 to 13 were old enough to be dangerous and too old to adapt to a new culture if their mothers were with them. So, kill the men, those older children, and keep the women and young children to expand the tribe.
Some decades ago I saw an interesting National Geographic article about the excavation of a 50 foot high village mound in Bulgaria. The earliest pottery was lively and brightly colored. Then about 3,000 BC the potter was all dull gray or brown with no ornamentation but very well formed and smooth. My thought then was my gosh what happened to these people. Now I suspect that the women (pottery makers) were captured by invaders, their men and older children murdered and they were a sad and depressed female population whose lack of happiness and spirit was reflected in their pottery.
The Neolithic era was very carbon neutral.
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