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Differences in human and Neanderthal brains set in just after birth
Eurekalert ^ | Monday, November 8, 2010 | Elisabeth N. Lyons

Posted on 11/09/2010 6:06:56 PM PST by SunkenCiv

The findings are based on comparisons of virtual imprints of the developing brain and surrounding structures (known as endocasts) derived from the skulls of modern and fossilized humans, including that of a newborn Neanderthal...

"In modern humans, the connections between diverse brain regions that are established in the first years of life are important for higher-order social, emotional, and communication functions," Gunz said. "It is therefore unlikely that Neanderthals saw the world as we do."

...In fact, the elongated overall shape of the braincase hasn't changed much in the course of more than two million years of human evolution, despite a big increase in endocranium volume. It is the globular braincases of modern humans that distinguish our own species from our closest fossil relatives and ancestors. The new results show that, at the time of birth, both Neanderthals and modern humans have elongated braincases, but only modern human endocasts change to a more globular shape in the first year of life.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals
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To: Jim 0216
Wasn't the "Neanderthal Man" was found to be a fraud decades ago?

That was an American fossil whose name escapes me. The Neanderthal was a very advanced, extinct ape, the most advanced member of the same family as chimps and gorillas, his DNA generally described as about halfway between ours and that of a chimpanzee. The genetic gulf was far too wide for us to be descended from the Neanderthal and that also rules out all other hominids as plausible human ancestors since they were all FURTHER removed from us THAN the Neanderthal.

There has never been anything on this Earth which modern man could be descended from and the theory of evolution is basically a bunch of bullshit.

21 posted on 11/09/2010 6:52:04 PM PST by wendy1946
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To: SunkenCiv

FAIL. There is no way they have enough fossilized skulls of infants pre-birth and immediately post birth, or in early infancy, to even begin to make a case for this.


22 posted on 11/09/2010 6:53:30 PM PST by Tax-chick (The alligator ate my friend. He will eat your friend, too. Then he will eat Tom.)
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To: pookie18
All in.

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23 posted on 11/09/2010 6:53:53 PM PST by Cyber Ninja (Live and Let Live; is not working...)
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To: brytlea

You gotta be kidding. Technology and science is the best ever and look where we are? Probably won’t be around long enough to enjoy it.

With all the brain advantage humans have, we are still the land of idiots.

Have you studied any animals?

Do you know some animals will not produce
birth unless there is enough food?

PS I have only owned a couple dogs, watched squirrels, opossums, raccoons, bees, snakes in my back yard. I’m not a animal nut. Just observant.


24 posted on 11/09/2010 6:56:47 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS= Obama's Mosque, taxes, painful death. Is this what you want?)
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To: billorites
Neanderthal chicks are really hot.

But they didn't put out.
25 posted on 11/09/2010 7:08:18 PM PST by kenavi (The good ol' US of A: 57 state laboratories for the future.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Have I studied animals? Well, I suppose you could say that. I am a former biology teacher, and a dog trainer and hobby breeder, so I suppose I know a little about animals.
First, I question your premise that we won’t be around long enough to enjoy our technology, please provide some proof of that (other than Al Gore). In addition, define “the land of idiots”. I don’t really know what you mean by that. Compared to what?
Of course some animals “will not produce unless there is enough food”. Nothing can produce without enough raw materials. It’s not because they are smart, it’s because the system is set up that way. Can you build a car without parts?
You got anything else?


26 posted on 11/09/2010 7:13:59 PM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Tax-chick

Are you sure they didn’t go back in time and measure them? I bet they have a time machine...


27 posted on 11/09/2010 7:15:09 PM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: brytlea

Sorry, I’m not up to any sarcastic debates tonight. So long.


28 posted on 11/09/2010 7:31:39 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS= Obama's Mosque, taxes, painful death. Is this what you want?)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

It’s fine. YOu didn’t make any sort of case. Have a good night.


29 posted on 11/09/2010 7:36:04 PM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: wendy1946
That was an American fossil whose name escapes me. The Neanderthal was a very advanced, extinct ape, the most advanced member of the same family as chimps and gorillas, his DNA generally described as about halfway between ours and that of a chimpanzee. The genetic gulf was far too wide for us to be descended from the Neanderthal and that also rules out all other hominids as plausible human ancestors since they were all FURTHER removed from us THAN the Neanderthal.

I take it that you didn't study anthropology in college?

30 posted on 11/09/2010 8:51:22 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (Had God not driven man from the Garden of Eden the Sierra Club surely would have.)
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To: wendy1946
Now hold on there.

Neanderthal Mitochondrial DNA is found in about 12% of Europeans today.

We interbred.

31 posted on 11/09/2010 9:00:15 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Jim 0216
Wasn't the "Neanderthal Man" was found to be a fraud decades ago? I guess word hasn't yet reached our hippie "scientists" who've replaced scientific method with Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds.

Nope, Neanderthals are quite real and not a fraud. There have been other frauds but Neanderthals are not one of them. They are also not modern humans or even related to us except that they walked upright and were intelligent to a high degree.

32 posted on 11/09/2010 9:06:47 PM PST by calex59
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To: Inyo-Mono

I studied mathematics in college. Aside from anything else, that means that I have a better grasp on basic logic than most anthropologists do. Too-remote-to-be-descended-from is a transitive relationship. Simple stuff to my ilk at least but most anthropologists can’t handle it.


33 posted on 11/09/2010 9:19:53 PM PST by wendy1946
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To: wendy1946
Too-remote-to-be-descended-from is a transitive relationship.

Well I most anthropologists don’t believe that we are descended from Neanderthals either, but they certainly are very close cousins.

34 posted on 11/09/2010 9:29:51 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (Had God not driven man from the Garden of Eden the Sierra Club surely would have.)
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To: Inyo-Mono

That’s the part of it that doesn’t compute. If you wanted to go on claiming we descended from ANY hominids, you’d have to produce some new hominid, closer to us in both time and morphology THAN the Neanderthal, and the works and remains of that creature would be all over the map and very easy to find had he ever existed. In real life, he never existed, we are not descended from anything resembling any hominid or ape, and the theory of evolution is a bunch of bullshit.


35 posted on 11/09/2010 10:00:27 PM PST by wendy1946
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To: bgill
Sure, but what about liberal’s brains?

Well... There's a reason why liberals don't fear zombies.

36 posted on 11/09/2010 10:03:06 PM PST by Redcloak (What's your zombie plan?)
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To: SunkenCiv; All

This guy is wrong. One can influence the shape of the head, and not just by mechanical shaping. Read Adelle Davis’ “Let’s Have Healthy Children”. She points out that inadequate Vitamin D has a definite influence on head and face development in infants and children. My mother had very narrow jaw structure and severe tooth crowding. I had narrow jaw structure and tooth crowding. My oldest son was born with a nice square rather than elongated head, but as he got older it began to become more narrow. At that point I happened to read Adelle Davis’ book and began to give him extra Vitamin D. In a few months his face began to broaden out again. This occurred around the end of his first year of life. From my mother to me to my son we also have decreasing levels of nearsightedness, which also is affected by bone structure. So, if you have narrow faces, crowded teeth and are nearsighted, I urge you to have your children and grandchildren consume plenty of cod liver oil, or Vitamin D capsules while infants and children.

Anthropologists refer to “brachycephalic” broad, and “dolicocephalic” narrow heads. I now am of the opinion that these racial differences can in some cases be caused by dietary, climatic, and pigmentation differences, but have never been evaluated in those terms.


37 posted on 11/10/2010 12:23:01 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: bigheadfred

Amen.


38 posted on 11/10/2010 12:46:08 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Save the liver!)
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To: TribalPrincess2U
Do you know some animals will not produce birth unless there is enough food?

That's only because they cannot grow their own.

39 posted on 11/10/2010 2:58:13 AM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: Redcloak

I thought liberals don’t fear zombies because they wear their hearts on their sleeves.


40 posted on 11/10/2010 3:01:24 AM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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