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Is Recession Preparing a New Breed of Survivalist? [Survival Today - an On going Thread #2]
May 05th,2008

Posted on 02/09/2009 12:36:11 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny

Yahoo ran an interesting article this morning indicating a rise in the number of survivalist communities cropping up around the country. I have been wondering myself how much of the recent energy crisis is causing people to do things like stockpile food and water, grow their own vegetables, etc. Could it be that there are many people out there stockpiling and their increased buying has caused food prices to increase? It’s an interesting theory, but I believe increased food prices have more to do with rising fuel prices as cost-to-market costs have increased and grocers are simply passing those increases along to the consumer. A recent stroll through the camping section of Wal-Mart did give me pause - what kinds of things are prudent to have on hand in the event of a worldwide shortage of food and/or fuel? Survivalist in Training

I’ve been interested in survival stories since I was a kid, which is funny considering I grew up in a city. Maybe that’s why the idea of living off the land appealed to me. My grandfather and I frequently took camping trips along the Blue Ridge Parkway and around the Smoky Mountains. Looking back, some of the best times we had were when we stayed at campgrounds without electricity hookups, because it forced us to use what we had to get by. My grandfather was well-prepared with a camp stove and lanterns (which ran off propane), and when the sun went to bed we usually did along with it. We played cards for entertainment, and in the absence of televisions, games, etc. we shared many great conversations. Survivalist in the Neighborhood


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9,361 posted on 07/03/2009 3:26:06 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: Covenantor; Eagle50AE; DelaWhere

How many do you remember?
All that you listed plus: <<<

Welcome to the thread.

I must have missed this one, or I am indeed older than dirt.

“Burma Shave” signs on the roadways.


9,362 posted on 07/03/2009 3:51:52 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: DelaWhere

URGENT WARNING

After extensive group testing, a rare Urgent Warning has been issued by both the FDA and EPA - jointly.

http://www.backwoodshome.com/nl/pix/nl0906-h1.jpg

<<<<<

Lordy, what creative minds will come up with.
LOL

My first thought, “Look at all those liberals in their fancy exercise class.”


9,363 posted on 07/03/2009 3:56:39 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: DelaWhere

Drawing similarities between the North Korean rocket and the components previously developed by China, Russia and Iran, the physicists concluded that “it’s extremely unlikely that these technologies were indigenously produced by North Korea.”<<<

When will we admit that the wars we fight against russian equipment, are also a war with russia?

Strange, they are in the middle of All our enemies tents.


9,364 posted on 07/03/2009 4:01:47 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: alwaysconservative

Welcome and have fun reading, as for catching up, that will take awhile.


9,365 posted on 07/03/2009 4:52:02 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: Eagle50AE

thanks for the heads up .. con’s are popping up everywhere!!<<<

LOL, I kept turning down the millions of dollars that are waiting for me in the secret accounts.

Sometimes, I just hit reply and send it back to them with the FBI address showing as being the copy receiver.


9,366 posted on 07/03/2009 4:52:08 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: JDoutrider

Thanks for the truffle research!<<<

You are welcome.

LOL, I realized that I was short on truffle knowledge, as in none.

Interesting object that you have in that bag, maybe it has seeds/spores?


9,367 posted on 07/03/2009 4:53:55 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: Eagle50AE

OK, now on to the facts - your idiotic and utterly unsupportable “the recession is over” call.

http://market-ticker.org/archives/1175-To-Dennis-Kneale-Youre-An-Idiot.html
<<<

Interesting site, at least he knows what it is all about.

You can bet the media does not understand, unless it has an
‘o’ said, attached to the press release.


9,368 posted on 07/03/2009 4:56:13 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: ctdonath2

Welcome to the thread.


9,369 posted on 07/03/2009 4:57:52 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: appleseed

Thanks for the tip on the sale, you are right, I should order the extra cuff keys, in case I need to escape.


9,370 posted on 07/03/2009 4:59:36 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: Eagle50AE

Thanks for the link on peroxide, has even more uses than I knew and LOL, it is my number one medical tool.

When I raised parrots, I learned that it would halt bleeding in the birds, so I tried it on the dogs and me and anything that needed to stop bleeding.........it always worked.


9,371 posted on 07/03/2009 5:04:17 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: WKUHilltopper

Welcome, hope you find the thread useful.


9,372 posted on 07/03/2009 5:05:20 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; DelaWhere

How I loved those Burma-Shave signs! Would read them and giggle and giggle. Didn’t take much to amuse us on a trip. Hot weather, no air-conditioning, mother would distract us by having us keep watch for another sign.

Delaware, sure glad you tried the dried squash for us, and doubly glad it was so good. Love chips and dips, so this will help keep the waistline down. Will be trying some soon if it will just stop raining. First time in 77 years that I can remember having a wood fire every morning for a week in July! Pulled a few weeds yesterday at the edge of garden. Weeds came up with a clump of mud and the hole it left immediately filled with water.

The price of hay for our minny horses will be exorbitant when and if the farmers do any haying.


9,373 posted on 07/03/2009 5:11:07 AM PDT by upcountry miss
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To: DelaWhere

So, don’t suppose squash chips and a homemade salsa of tomato, pepper, onion and celery could be bad for you at breakfast, so I am going to let her have it.<<<

Sounds like a Denver Omelet to me.

Served a million of them over the years, as an open face sandwich on toast with french fries and a salad, talk about good.

Why not mash some beans or lentils, put lots of salsa, fresh onions, cilantro if you have it...and cheese, a dab of that on the different colored chips, would make a pretty tray, and offer more protein.

My mothers favorite Sunday brunch was, scrambled eggs with cheese and green chilies in them, refried beans and lots of hot buttered cornbread.

Spanish rice of course.

So, yes, I eat vegetables for breakfast.


9,374 posted on 07/03/2009 5:12:04 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: upcountry miss

The price of hay for our minny horses will be exorbitant when and if the farmers do any haying.<<<

Yes, I can imagine it will be.

Many things will be higher priced, due to the weather.

We are getting 70 mile an hour winds and flash flooding, right now it is hitting about 30 miles due north of me and I am hoping that it does not hit me, as it is so bad a storm, the federal alert system has been tracking it and giving alerts on the radio all night.


9,375 posted on 07/03/2009 5:18:35 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

>>>Spanish rice of course<<<

Hmmm, how did you know - that’s what we had last night...

We had a rather large package of sliced mushrooms that we had only used a small portion of - dried the rest.

Have some onions that I had dried.

Had a tray of peppers.

THEN - since I couldn’t wait till winter, we had a big omelet this morning using some of all of the above.

(Christi’s chips were saved for lunch)- Result: Dehydrators will be VERY busy this summer - might even make a couple of trays for in the car. (we have a car that we almost never use - so will put it to good use drying more food - nice thing is that it is a hatchback, so can use a couple of pretty long trays)

Flavors from all dried foods seemed more concentrated and intense...YUM!

Hope the storms bypassed you!


9,376 posted on 07/03/2009 10:50:34 AM PDT by DelaWhere (Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional.. No, not my second childhood either....)
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To: All; JDoutrider

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Bread Maker Mixes!

When I got my first bread maker, I was so excited! Then I read the instructions telling me to use special flour and special yeast, and I saw how much the pre-packaged mixes were, and I was quickly unhappy with what I saw. I have experimented with the recipes since then and have discovered two important things.

First, you do not need to use special flour or special yeast! The same stuff you were using before is just fine. Second, you can make your own bread maker mixes and save a lot of money doing it.

The following are some of my favorite bread maker recipes. I make up several bags of bread mix at a time. These can also be used to give as gifts. Just label your mix, include instructions, a packet of yeast and list of added ingredients for making a completed loaf and place inside a decorative tin or a bread basket , and you have a great gift!

Important Tips For Using Your Bread Maker:

Measuring- Because each ingredient plays such a specific role, it is especially important to measure the ingredients exactly to get the best results.

Dry Ingredients: Use a standard measuring spoon or measuring cup, not a tableware spoon or coffee cup, and level off. For flour, simply spoon the flour into a measuring cup and level off with a flat kitchen utensil.

Liquids: Fill a standard measuring spoon or measuring cup to the level indicated. Check your cup measurement by placing the measuring cup on a flat surface.

Solid Fats: Fill a standard measuring spoon or measuring cup to the level indicated and level off with a kitchen utensil.

Unless your bread maker manufacturer specifies otherwise, always put the liquids in the bread maker pan first, the dry ingredients in next and the yeast last. Before adding the yeast, dig a shallow hole in the dry ingredients and place the yeast in the hole so that there is absolutely NO contact between the yeast and the liquids. You don’t want the yeast to be activated too soon in the process. This is especially important when you are using the Delay option.

Place dried fruits, vegetables and dried spices away from the liquid ingredients in the bread pan. If they soak up water, they can undermine the bread’s chemistry.

For best results, wait fifteen minutes before slicing your baked bread. The bread needs time to cool.

To freeze fresh bread, let it cool completely and double bag the loaf in plastic. For best results, freeze loaves whole and slice after thawing.

Traditional White Bread Mix

3 cups Flour

2 tablespoons Sugar

1 tablespoon Dry Milk

1 1/2 teaspoons Salt

Place the above ingredients into a large (gallon) sized zip baggie, label and seal. To make the bread later, you will need the following additional ingredients:

2- 1/2 tsp. Active Dry Yeast (1 pkg.)

Or

2-1/2 tsp. Quick Acting Active Dry Yeast (1 pkg.)

1 1/4 cups warm water

1 tablespoon Vegetable Oil

When ready to bake bread, place the second set of ingredients into the bottom of the bread pan of your bread maker. Place dry ingredients on top of wet ingredients, reserving yeast for last. Select “White, Crust Color (light), Large, (rapid if using fast acting yeast), Delay option if desired, and Start”

You should store these mixes in a cool, dry place just as you would store the pre-packaged mixes you can purchase in the stores.

Potato Bread Mix

3-1/4 cups Flour

~1/2 cup Dry Potato Flakes

1 Tbsp. White Sugar

1-1/2 tsp. Salt

Place the above ingredients into a large (gallon) sized zip baggie, label and seal. To make the bread later, you will need the following additional ingredients:

1-1/4 cups Warm Water (110 degrees F)

2 Tbsp. Vegetable Oil

2-3/4 tsp. Active Dry Yeast (1 pkg.)

Or

2-3/4 tsp. Quick Acting Active Dry Yeast (1 pkg.)

Place all wet ingredients into the bread pan, then add the dry ingredients on top, reserving the yeast for last. Insert the bread pan into the bread maker, and select “White”, desired crust color, rapid or normal baking cycle and loaf size. Select desired delay option, and press Start.

You should store these mixes in a cool, dry place just as you would store the pre-packaged mixes you can purchase in the stores.

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9,377 posted on 07/03/2009 6:51:41 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: DelaWhere

You are busy, but it is a good busy and all will benefit from the good food you are saving.

Yes, the storm and hard, this afternoon.

My mobile is 55’ long and I have a 30 inch drop, in that 55’, the rear end is 30 inches off the ground the front frame on the ground.

Looking out the window, my yard was a solid sheet of water.

There is a fair wash on the north property line and I cannot get outdoors to see the damage done, for the fools on the next lot, put their mobile in the wash area and covered in the wash.

Which means the water coming off the mountains will make new washes.

All they had to do was ask me and I could have told them that the wash, washes out the road, about every 3 years.

So instead of half the wash, I am betting that I now have all of it and there is a good chance it got my camper, which is on jacks about where it will open up.

So goes real life, no I will never camp again, but someone might.


9,378 posted on 07/03/2009 7:03:53 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

“I love good pound cake.”

This one’s been around our family for many years:

Pound Cake

1 lb. butter
1 lb. powdered sugar
3 c. flour - sift it 3 times
6 eggs
1 Tbsp. vanilla or brandy

Cream butter and sugar. Add eggs one at a time, alternating 1 egg and 1/2 c. flour. Continue mixing till it’s all in.

Put in Buttered 2 long loaf pan or angel food cake pan. Bake 1 hr. 15 min. at 350 degrees.

Another of my favorites:

Chocolate Pound Cake

1/2 c. shortning
1 c. butter
3 c. sugar
5 eggs
3 c. flour
1/2 tsp. baking powder
1/2 tsp. salt
1/2 c. cocoa
1 1/4 c. milk
1 tsp. vanilla

Cream butter and shortning. Add sugar and beat till fluffy. Add 1 egg at a time, beating after each. Combine dry ingredients in separate bowl, mixing well. Add them to creamed mix alternating with milk. Begin and end with flour mixture. Stir in vanilla. Pour into greased and floured 10” tube pan. Bake at 350 degrees 1 hr. and 15 min. or until done. Cool in pan 10-15 min. Then invert over serving plate.

Glaze:
2 1/2 c. sifted powdered sugar
3 Tbs. cocoa
1/4 c. butter, softened
3-4 Tbs. milk

Combine sugar and cocoa. Add butter and milk. Mix until smooth.


9,379 posted on 07/04/2009 6:49:07 AM PDT by Marmolade
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To: Eagle50AE

“How many do you remember?”

A lot, but I don’t feel older than dirt.

Hi-Fi’s - Both sets of grandpartents had a nice cabinet model and played records all the time. My dad inherited many of their records and both of their cabinets. My mom still has her dad’s cabinet and record collection. Whenever we would go over there, dad always played a variety of music for our kids. He had one red record of bull fighting music. He often played it while the kids had breakfast, hence the name Breakfast music. The kids were all looking for that record to play on his last day, but we couldn’t find it amongst all the records. I have my eye on the stereo cabinet when mom decides to get rid of it.

Metal ice trays - I remember these well. I have an old “New Pillsbury Family Cookbook” which has a great recipe for lemon torte. It tells you to make the frozen dessert in a couple of ice cube trays. LOL


9,380 posted on 07/04/2009 9:02:05 AM PDT by Marmolade
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