Is Recession Preparing a New Breed of Survivalist? [Survival Today - an On going Thread #2]

May 05th,2008

[nw_arizona_granny]

Yahoo ran an interesting article this morning indicating a rise in the number of survivalist communities cropping up around the country. I have been wondering myself how much of the recent energy crisis is causing people to do things like stockpile food and water, grow their own vegetables, etc. Could it be that there are many people out there stockpiling and their increased buying has caused food prices to increase? It’s an interesting theory, but I believe increased food prices have more to do with rising fuel prices as cost-to-market costs have increased and grocers are simply passing those increases along to the consumer. A recent stroll through the camping section of Wal-Mart did give me pause - what kinds of things are prudent to have on hand in the event of a worldwide shortage of food and/or fuel? Survivalist in Training

I’ve been interested in survival stories since I was a kid, which is funny considering I grew up in a city. Maybe that’s why the idea of living off the land appealed to me. My grandfather and I frequently took camping trips along the Blue Ridge Parkway and around the Smoky Mountains. Looking back, some of the best times we had were when we stayed at campgrounds without electricity hookups, because it forced us to use what we had to get by. My grandfather was well-prepared with a camp stove and lanterns (which ran off propane), and when the sun went to bed we usually did along with it. We played cards for entertainment, and in the absence of televisions, games, etc. we shared many great conversations. Survivalist in the Neighborhood

[nw_arizona_granny]

Veterinarian Creates All-Purpose, Honey-Based Remedy to Promote Fast Healing in Horses<<<

That sounds like the goat milk you used to sell “for pet consumption only.”<<<

LOL, it does remind one of the goats.

And no, I did not call about the milk goat in this weeks paper,
advertised as for sale.

[nw_arizona_granny]

Yes, I’ve found the same thing. Why pay for Centrum’s or One-a-Day’s advertising bill?<<<

If it is a name brand, LOL, don’t buy it.

I have a hard time convincing Scott that I really like the off brand types of food better, on the whole.

No name brand peaches, that come in chunks, beat the green canned, perfect cut ones any day.

Walmart did have the best canned corn, with a walmart label, it tasted like it was fresh corn....not the no taste of the name brands.

[metmom]

There is one [?] that I have to take at times and he says the entire bottle must be taken, to not stop and start again, as it allows the bad guys to get a grip and not die and they are then stronger.

I agree that starting and stopping is not good. This was just taking enough to knock out the infection, like a sinus infection where the infection is gone when the infected mucous is gone.

[nw_arizona_granny]

[San Diego County, south area, near Chula Vista]

Authorities Search For Gunman On Interstate 805
Sky10 is live as authorities search for a man who may be armed off of Interstate
805 in the Bonita area. Watch live coverage from Sky10 now

http://www.10News.com/tu/5HpEktHtL.html

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[nw_arizona_granny]

Skin Products Made by Clarcon
Audience: Consumers, pharmacists, all healthcare professionals
FDA notified consumers and healthcare professionals that Clarcon Biological Chemistry Laboratory is recalling some skin sanitizers and skin protectants because of high levels of disease-causing bacteria found in the product. During an FDA inspection, analyses of samples of several of these products revealed high levels of various bacteria, including some associated with unsanitary conditions. Some of these bacteria can cause opportunistic infections of the skin and underlying tissues. Such infections may need medical or surgical attention, and may result in permanent damage. These findings are particularly concerning because the products are promoted as antimicrobial agents that claim to treat open wounds, damaged skin, and protect against various infectious diseases. FDA is warning consumers to not use any Clarcon products and should throw these products away in household refuse.

Read the complete MedWatch 2009 Safety summary, including a link to the FDA News Release, at:

http://www.fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/SafetyInformation/SafetyAlertsforHumanMedicalProducts/ucm165028.htm

[metmom]

Along with this from the same company.

FDA Warns of ‘High Levels’ of Disease-Causing Bacteria Found in Certain Hand Sanitizers
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2268125/posts

[nw_arizona_granny]

I agree that starting and stopping is not good. This was just taking enough to knock out the infection, like a sinus infection where the infection is gone when the infected mucous is gone.

<<<

Since that I have started using Oregano Essential Oil for my sinus, I rarely get an infection and they are gone in a day or so,
when I do get careless and stop using it.

Simply take the lid off and smell deep, several times, 3 or 4 times a day ...

I get tired of meds and don’t do what I know that i should be doing.

In the 4 or 5 years that I have used the Oregano E. Oil, I have not had to go to the doc for anti biotics for sinus.

[nw_arizona_granny]

Good for you, glad you had it started on a thread.

[MHGinTN]

I checked the bottles I have. I was wondering where Sam’s WHolesale gets their Member’s Mark brand, and I have a small bottle of ‘Citrus II’ and am wondering if that it produced by the Utah company with this recall.

[metmom]

The one thing I don’t like about Sam’s is the lack or ID of where their stuff comes from.

[MHGinTN]

I’m planning on calling them tomorrow ... I just bought a large bottle for the garage!

[nw_arizona_granny]

Breaking News

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105 Students Sick At Vegas School
Parents have been told to keep their children at home if they appear to be sick,
one day after 105 students were either absent or sent home from Marion Earl
Elementary School.

MORE DETAILS: http://www.fox5vegas.com/tu/5HpdZP8zA.html

[Flu like symptoms, tests are being run, count is now 150 students out sick.......granny]

[DelaWhere]

>>>I was given one of those, it does not have a fan, but lots of folks like them for yogurt makers.<<<

Since I wasn’t in the market for a third one, I only looked at the price... Good to know as the fan makes the drying much faster and more uniform.

Since the ones I have do not have thermostats, I have a stick thermometer that I put down from the top vent adjustment opening. That way, I can pretty much get the temp I want - but it takes patience... My old one will get up to about 155 degrees once the drying is about half way done. The evaporation of the moisture seems to make it cooler in the initial drying, so I have to adjust it usually once during the batch. (I have marked the vent for approx. temps. knowing it won’t go that high initially.)

upcountry miss was asking about drying meat, and I was hoping to get time to copy some of the charts for it. First off, you do NOT have to use the salt! They do use it on jerky, but they can also use sugar instead if they prefer. To make other than jerky, be sure and cook the meat hot enough and long enough BEFORE you put it in if your dehydrator isn’t one of the fancy commercial types with thermostat controls. As I recall, you need 140º for 45 minutes, or 160º for 30 minutes or 200º for 20 minutes. Those should be checked at the center of the meat and then hold it there for the required time.

Usually they recommend slicing the meat first in 3/16” to 1/4” uniform thickness. I like to cut mine cross grain (easier for this old fogy to chew) You can dry just about any kind of meat - squirrel, rabbit, venison, chevron, beef, fowl, even seafood. They say to test dryness by bending a cooled piece of it and it should snap like a tree twig, but not break. (LOL but if you cut it cross grain, it will break from my experience.)

[DelaWhere]

A little known tool that will tell you in which country an item is made, is to check the first 3 numbers in the UPC code - just under the barcode. Start with the little one off on the side, then the next two are under the barcode. They are the country code.

List of GS1 country codes.

* 000 – 019 U.S. and Canada
* 020 – 029 Restricted distribution (MO defined)
* 030 – 039 U.S. drugs (see U.S. National Drug Code)
* 040 – 049 Restricted distribution (MO defined)
* 050 – 059 coupons
* 060 – 099 U.S. and Canada

* 100 – 139 U.S. (reserved for later use)
* 200 – 299 Restricted distribution (MO defined)
* 300 – 379 France and Monaco
* 380 Bulgaria
* 383 Slovenia
* 385 Croatia
* 387 Bosnia and Herzegovina
* 389 Montenegro
* 400 – 440 Germany (440 code inherited from old East Germany on reunification, 1990)
* 450 – 459 Japan
* 460 – 469 Russia
* 470 Kyrgyzstan
* 471 Taiwan
* 474 Estonia
* 475 Latvia
* 476 Azerbaijan
* 477 Lithuania
* 478 Uzbekistan
* 479 Sri Lanka
* 480 Philippines
* 481 Belarus
* 482 Ukraine
* 484 Moldova
* 485 Armenia
* 486 Georgia, South Ossetia and Abkhazia
* 487 Kazakhstan
* 488 Tajikistan
* 489 Hong Kong SAR
* 490 – 499 Japan
* 500 – 509 United Kingdom
* 520 Greece
* 528 Lebanon
* 529 Cyprus
* 530 Albania
* 531 FYR Macedonia
* 535 Malta
* 539 Republic of Ireland
* 540 – 549 Belgium and Luxembourg
* 560 Portugal
* 569 Iceland
* 570 – 579 Denmark, Faroe Islands and Greenland
* 590 Poland
* 594 Romania
* 599 Hungary
* 600 – 601 South Africa
* 603 Ghana
* 608 Bahrain
* 609 Mauritius
* 611 Morocco
* 613 Algeria
* 615 Nigeria
* 616 Kenya
* 618 Côte d’Ivoire
* 619 Tunisia
* 621 Syria
* 622 Egypt
* 624 Libya
* 625 Jordan
* 626 Iran
* 627 Kuwait
* 628 Saudi Arabia
* 629 United Arab Emirates
* 640 – 649 Finland
* 690 – 695 China, The People’s Republic
* 700 – 709 Norway
* 729 Israel
* 730 – 739 Sweden
* 740 Guatemala
* 741 El Salvador
* 742 Honduras
* 743 Nicaragua
* 744 Costa Rica
* 745 Panama
* 746 Dominican Republic
* 750 Mexico
* 754 – 755 Canada
* 759 Venezuela
* 760 – 769 Switzerland and Liechtenstein
* 770 Colombia
* 773 Uruguay
* 775 Peru
* 777 Bolivia
* 779 Argentina
* 780 Chile
* 784 Paraguay
* 785 Peru
* 786 Ecuador
* 789 – 790 Brazil
* 800 – 839 Italy, San Marino and Vatican City
* 840 – 849 Spain and Andorra
* 850 Cuba
* 858 Slovakia
* 859 Czech Republic
* 860 Serbia
* 865 Mongolia
* 867 North Korea
* 868 – 869 Turkey
* 870 – 879 Netherlands
* 880 South Korea
* 884 Cambodia
* 885 Thailand
* 888 Singapore
* 890 India
* 893 Vietnam
* 896 Pakistan
* 899 Indonesia
* 900 – 919 Austria
* 930 – 939 Australia
* 940 – 949 New Zealand
* 950 Global Office
* 955 Malaysia
* 958 Macau
* 977 Serial publications (ISSN)
* 978 – 979 Bookland (ISBN) – 979 formerly used for sheet music
* 980 Refund receipts
* 981 – 982 Common Currency Coupons
* 990 – 999 Coupons

[CottonBall]

Sometimes, one has far more strength/will power, than has been tested.

I've read that a lot. In other survival situations, it seems the people that make it vs those that don't can't be determined ahead of time. Some unexpected folk find the inner strength and champion it out. And others that seem strong and able just collapse. Personally, I think an attitude of flexibility and acceptance, live you've been talking about, is probably a big key.

[upcountry miss]

I really hope to be using my dehydrator much more this year. Have saved all granny's recipes for gorp. Would love to make jerky without the salt. Hubby makes lots of jerky and he loves the salt and it doesn't affect him as it does me. Many hunters in our area,but they only want the choice cuts (tenderloin and hind quarters) and gladly give us the rest. Find the neck meat very tasty and tender and great for jerky. Great for mincemeat also. Mince pie, bars and mince-filled cookies. Oh dear, that sweet-tooth is acting up again!

[DelaWhere]

>>>Great for mincemeat also. Mince pie, bars and mince-filled cookies.<<<

Between you, Wneighbor, CottonBall and Granny, I am going to be as big as one of those you see on TV being hauled out with a crane....

I dearly love mince pie! And bars! And mince-filled cookies!
Of course all the other sweet things too... LOL I best be doubling up on cultivating - burn those calories! It is also probably why I keep about twice as much sugar on hand as I would ever need.

[metmom]

ping to post 8,854

[metmom]

I looked at some coupons I clipped and they don’t have a 999 code.

Where did you get that list anyways?

[Marmolade]

“I recently got reduced to only two days per week on dialysis. “

What great news to hear. Continued prayers for continued healing.