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Is Recession Preparing a New Breed of Survivalist? [Survival Today - an On going Thread #2]
May 05th,2008

Posted on 02/09/2009 12:36:11 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny

Yahoo ran an interesting article this morning indicating a rise in the number of survivalist communities cropping up around the country. I have been wondering myself how much of the recent energy crisis is causing people to do things like stockpile food and water, grow their own vegetables, etc. Could it be that there are many people out there stockpiling and their increased buying has caused food prices to increase? It’s an interesting theory, but I believe increased food prices have more to do with rising fuel prices as cost-to-market costs have increased and grocers are simply passing those increases along to the consumer. A recent stroll through the camping section of Wal-Mart did give me pause - what kinds of things are prudent to have on hand in the event of a worldwide shortage of food and/or fuel? Survivalist in Training

I’ve been interested in survival stories since I was a kid, which is funny considering I grew up in a city. Maybe that’s why the idea of living off the land appealed to me. My grandfather and I frequently took camping trips along the Blue Ridge Parkway and around the Smoky Mountains. Looking back, some of the best times we had were when we stayed at campgrounds without electricity hookups, because it forced us to use what we had to get by. My grandfather was well-prepared with a camp stove and lanterns (which ran off propane), and when the sun went to bed we usually did along with it. We played cards for entertainment, and in the absence of televisions, games, etc. we shared many great conversations. Survivalist in the Neighborhood


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To: nw_arizona_granny
Thanks for the info on oregano, I had not heard of using honey before. Shame, of it is, I do not know anyone with a plant.

I first read of using honey as a root stimulater when I was having low success rates with rooting lemon verbena. One source said use honey instead of a commercial preparation. I tried it and it worked. Now I use honey when the store-bought doesn't work well.

1,341 posted on 02/15/2009 4:52:45 PM PST by Wneighbor
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To: DelaWhere

That thick resin used to be called “Build 50” but now it has a new name. LOL we are dating ourselves because we all remember that stuff being in style.


1,342 posted on 02/15/2009 4:56:22 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: Wneighbor

Anytime you buy an onion in the store to use, you can grow your own.

The pointy top part of the onion, you might as well cut up and eat.

But if you slice off the rooty, bottom part, put it in the ground, water it good, and leave it alone.

Onions are very hardy, it will grow at least one new onion, possibly more.

Same is true of celery.


1,343 posted on 02/15/2009 5:00:40 PM PST by djf
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To: Wneighbor; nw_arizona_granny

You are more than welcome. Thought of you soon as I saw it.

I am going to have to try the Onion roots too... Sounds good. I have 3 varieties so will try all three.


1,344 posted on 02/15/2009 5:18:24 PM PST by DelaWhere (I'm a Klingon - Clinging to guns and Bible - Putting Country First - Preparing for the Worst!!!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

LOL As long as I am not past my expiration date, I guess it is OK...


1,345 posted on 02/15/2009 5:30:34 PM PST by DelaWhere (I'm a Klingon - Clinging to guns and Bible - Putting Country First - Preparing for the Worst!!!)
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To: djf

>>>>>Same is true of celery.<<<<<

Hey, I’ve got to try that one too - I have tried for 50+ years to grow celery and never had any luck - maybe this will give it the head start it needs.


1,346 posted on 02/15/2009 5:35:04 PM PST by DelaWhere (I'm a Klingon - Clinging to guns and Bible - Putting Country First - Preparing for the Worst!!!)
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To: DelaWhere

Oh yea!

Just cut the bottom off the whole celery bunch about a half inch thick.

Plant it root-side down under about 1/2 - 3/4 inch of dirt and water good.

Within a week to ten days, you will see celery sprout plants starting to come up.

When they get vigorous, you can dig it up, cut it down to individual plants, and replant them.


1,347 posted on 02/15/2009 6:10:20 PM PST by djf
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To: DelaWhere

And I can only knit, I could never get the gauge right on the crochet projects. I haven’t picked up a knitting needle in years... maybe on the commute to and from work I could get started again.


1,348 posted on 02/15/2009 6:41:44 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: ozarkgirl

You can download the first 9000 posts of the original thread if you go to posts 959 and 961 of this thread.


1,349 posted on 02/15/2009 6:47:03 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: DelaWhere

Yeah exporting to acrobat is no problem, I do it for a living LOL. I’m a technical writer.

You might benefit from a free software downloader. It lets you stop and restart downloads from where you left off. Here’s where you get it:

http://www.freedownloadmanager.org/

It’s not a big download itself and it’s really helpful for inconsistent connections.


1,350 posted on 02/15/2009 6:51:09 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Yay! Success!

Finally got the downloads - (I do miss broadband sometimes but it was not worth the cost here.)

Download of both took 4 hours 37 min. But I got them!

I extracted the files into a directory, opened the thread in Open Office and then under Files you can choose Export and then Export as PDF. I did that - saving it to the ‘L’ drive which I had a memory stick on. Then went to search and selected search all PDF’s in the L drive - works like a champ!

Did the same with the other non pdf documents too and can do one search of all the pdf’s in the whole L drive.

Got sidetracked reading some of you additional files on there too - they are fantastic! Will be spending several hours reading them.

Thank you for all you are doing to support the thread! We all appreciate it!


1,351 posted on 02/15/2009 7:27:21 PM PST by DelaWhere (I'm a Klingon - Clinging to guns and Bible - Putting Country First - Preparing for the Worst!!!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Gauge? Pattern?

Guess I am just too much of a free spirit to follow fixed rules - besides, wanted them to be ‘Original Dad’ and ‘Original Grandpa’ items - not like anything anyone else would make. :)


1,352 posted on 02/15/2009 7:31:17 PM PST by DelaWhere (I'm a Klingon - Clinging to guns and Bible - Putting Country First - Preparing for the Worst!!!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

For those big downloads, I switch to Opera and it allows me to restart downloads.

I bounce around between Firefox, Opera, & Safari Try to avoid Microsoft except when testing a webpage design to see how it works in each.

But thanks for the link.


1,353 posted on 02/15/2009 7:35:27 PM PST by DelaWhere (I'm a Klingon - Clinging to guns and Bible - Putting Country First - Preparing for the Worst!!!)
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To: ozarkgirl

And as always my favorite survival site. by John Wesley Rawles http://survivalblog.com who wrote “Patriots: Surviving the coming collapse”. There is a realty section for those interested and a section showing the 19 best states for self sufficient living/retreats. Me, I’m staying here in good ole Missouri and will make do with what I have should it come down to it.

For those who want to hook up with like minded folks you can get to
http://www.survivalistbooks.com/survivalistgroups.htm
<<<

You are right, it is full of information, much of it worth reading or going further with learning about.


1,354 posted on 02/15/2009 8:35:46 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: DelaWhere

Raised White Kings for squab though...<<<

I love pigeons, but like goats, have never tasted them, hope I never need to do so.

My friend Mary liked squab and she was willing to keep my flock down.


1,355 posted on 02/15/2009 8:39:39 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

Welcome to our efforts to share knowledge, both ours and any others we find interesting/helpful.

Please join in and share your thoughts on surviving the world of today and what I fear tomorrow brings for all of us.

When you finish this chapter/thread, LOL, you can start on our first thread at:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?q=1&;page=9251


1,356 posted on 02/15/2009 8:44:11 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: Wneighbor

I first read of using honey as a root stimulater when I was having low success rates with rooting lemon verbena. One source said use honey instead of a commercial preparation. I tried it and it worked. Now I use honey when the store-bought doesn’t work well. <<<

I let my mind roam on that one, do you suppose that Mother Nature, had a bear eat a honey comb, in a spot she wanted a rare plant branch to grow and had the bear break off the branch?

Amazing the uses we can make of common things like honey and vinegar.

I am glad you are testing the onion, keep us posted on how it works.

Actually it shouldn’t surprise us, as the onion bulb is meant by Mother Nature to supply food to the onion bloom spike so it will produce seeds, to reproduce more onion plants.

And so goes real life.


1,357 posted on 02/15/2009 8:50:15 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: djf

Within a week to ten days, you will see celery sprout plants starting to come up.<<<

Thank you for better instructions than I had.

At the price of celery and onions today, here, it will help if we can grow our own from plants in the store.

Don’t forget to plant the tops of pineapples also, with about an inch of pineapple left on it, let it dry, before planting.


1,358 posted on 02/15/2009 8:55:00 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

maybe on the commute to and from work I could get started again.<<<

If that means you are on public transportation, be sure it is a good strong steel needle, to also serve as a weapon.

Remember the Victorian Lady and her hat pin?

Now that was a weapon.


1,359 posted on 02/15/2009 8:57:41 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

It is actually a carpool with my husband. LOL I hope I don’t need a knitting needle to fend him off! But it takes an hour to get down to Fresno from the foothills.


1,360 posted on 02/15/2009 9:06:39 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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