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Music in Human Evolution
Melting Asphalt ^ | 10/15/2015 | Kevin Simler

Posted on 10/16/2015 2:05:10 PM PDT by sparklite2

I just finished the strangest, most disconcerting little book. It's called Why Do People Sing?: Music in Human Evolution by Joseph Jordania.

If the title hasn't already piqued your interest, its thesis surely will. The thesis is wild, bold, and original, but makes an eerie amount of sense. If true, it would be a revolution — and I don't use the term lightly — in how we understand the evolution of music, cooperation, warfare, and even religion.

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TOPICS: Arts/Photography; History; Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; josephjordania; music; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals; pages; paleomusic; prehistoricmusic; singingcaveman; whydopeoplesing
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Interesting arguments for the thesis.
1 posted on 10/16/2015 2:05:10 PM PDT by sparklite2
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To: sparklite2
Here is a modern Audio Visual Intimidation Display.

ACDC Thunderstruck

2 posted on 10/16/2015 2:37:50 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: sparklite2

This is an interesting theory and one that I have pondered for years. Who started singing and why? I especially enjoyed the video of the New Zealand soldiers and their war dance. Scary indeed!


3 posted on 10/16/2015 2:39:27 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: TigersEye

Indeed. And a good example.


4 posted on 10/16/2015 2:45:32 PM PDT by sparklite2 (All will become clear when it is too late to matter.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

There is an Australian rugby team that takes what the army did up to the next level. It’s great to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgEKEYAUX2c


5 posted on 10/16/2015 2:47:54 PM PDT by sparklite2 (All will become clear when it is too late to matter.)
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To: sparklite2
"Singing is a trick to get people to listen to music for longer than they would ordinarily." — David Byrne

I think singing is also a trick to get people to listen to you longer than if you were just talking.

6 posted on 10/16/2015 2:57:08 PM PDT by snarkpup ("No matter how paranoid you are, you're not paranoid enough." - Susan Modesky)
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To: sparklite2

LOLOL. The facial expressions are piceless.


7 posted on 10/16/2015 3:01:00 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I seem to recall that the Spartans played flutes and danced as their part of their tactical maneuvering while in battle.


8 posted on 10/16/2015 3:22:28 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: sparklite2

If you have seen the Maori War Dance with the chest striking, arm movements and the facial expressions - you should also look at the African Bull Gorilla threats against intruders. Very similar indeed!


9 posted on 10/16/2015 4:35:56 PM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: sparklite2
Humans are the only ground-dwelling species that sings.

Interesting. Never considered that. I guess it is borderline to consider a wolf howling as singing, but canids and man do share many traits.

10 posted on 10/16/2015 4:58:19 PM PDT by Flick Lives (One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast. -- Heinlein)
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It’s the old “these dudes are crazy, let’s get outta here” trick.

One thing that comes to mind about the whole battle trance thing is the Scandinavian berserkers.

Another thing is that sung poetry is a very common way to remember and pass on knowledge in a illiterate society.


11 posted on 10/16/2015 5:20:54 PM PDT by seowulf (Cogito cogito, ergo cogito sum. Cogito.---Ambrose Bierce)
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“Another thing is that sung poetry is a very common way to remember and pass on knowledge in a illiterate society.”

Yes it was an essential element.


12 posted on 10/16/2015 5:38:54 PM PDT by sparklite2 (All will become clear when it is too late to matter.)
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To: SES1066

Coyotes or whatever it is we have in central Florida get together at night a make noises that could easily be a canine version of song.


13 posted on 10/16/2015 5:41:20 PM PDT by sparklite2 (All will become clear when it is too late to matter.)
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“Another thing is that sung poetry is a very common way to remember and pass on knowledge in a illiterate society.”

Yes it was an essential element.

The "rhythm trance" that was mentioned also focuses the mind so that it is easier to remember the words.

Everyone still remembers the alphabet song they learned in kindergarten.

14 posted on 10/16/2015 5:45:04 PM PDT by seowulf (Cogito cogito, ergo cogito sum. Cogito.---Ambrose Bierce)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The OT is full of music, singing, instruments. Seems to be another way to praise God.


15 posted on 10/16/2015 6:04:06 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: sparklite2

How is it possible to remember words to songs we haven’t heard in 40 years but we can’t remember someone’s phone number?


16 posted on 10/16/2015 6:05:18 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: sparklite2
disposal of the body: Ruhe sanfte, sanfte ruhe"

Wir setzen uns mit Tränen nieder
Und rufen dir im Grabe zu:
Ruhe sanfte, sanfte ruh!
Ruht, ihr ausgesognen Glieder!
Euer Grab und Leichenstein
Soll dem ängstlichen Gewissen
Ein bequemes Ruhekissen
Und der Seelen Ruhstatt sein.
Höchst vergnügt schlummern da die Augen ein.

We lay ourselves with weeping prostrate
And cry to thee within the tomb:
Rest thou gently, gently rest!
Res, O ye exhausted members!
This your tomb and this tombstone
Shall for ev'ry anguished conscience
Be a pillow of soft comfort
And the spirit's place of rest.
Most content, slumber ere the eyes in rest.

17 posted on 10/16/2015 6:17:26 PM PDT by cornelis
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To: ilovesarah2012
The object of literature and the arts are to please, to instruct, to seek, and the highest, which encompasses all three, to worship. All else is diminution or destruction.
18 posted on 10/16/2015 6:19:53 PM PDT by cornelis
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To: cornelis

That should be the goal but it isn’t.


19 posted on 10/16/2015 6:27:54 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: sparklite2

Very interesting. Thanks for posting!


20 posted on 10/16/2015 6:33:13 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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