Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom
Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.
The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.
The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.
Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.
McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.
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Thank you! Now that I have your explicit permission to do so, GTFU this thread.
You do what you need to do, but ... What are you chasing?
Are you a dog chasing its own tail in circles thinking its his favorite toy? thinking with just a bit more effort you might catch it?
Another LGF comment:
You misunderstand. Getting his opponents to bay after a false trail is tricking his opponents—people here, for example—into crying wolf and thereby discrediting anything else that is offered up as reason for voting against him.
Is it possible—just barely—that Obama does not qualify as a natural-born citizen of the US? Yes. But the likelihood of this being the case is far less than the possibility that this is being dangled tantalizingly so that his opponents will run around in circles chasing their tails on the issue, to the neglect of shining light on his record, his associates, his proposals—and with the ultimate objective that the tail-chasing will be used to discredit what is said about his record, his associates, and his proposals: “How can you believe what they say about these things? Look at how obsessed they were about the non-issue of his birth certificate! These are merely hate-filled partisans who will stop at nothing! Hope! Change!”
Oh, and BTW, thanks for bumping the thread with all your comments and threats and insinuations and chickensh*ttery.
Second, I'm suggesting to you that even though he is the owner of this site, he has other things on his mind right now, and that offering him as a referee is a straw-man argument that serves your purpose, but without getting his permission first to allow you to make your offer to others, people won't take kindly to your insinuating him into this on your own.
-PJ
All personal information could be blacked out while retaining the headers (Date of birth, Mother's name, Father's name, etc). None of that is relevant. Perhaps if KJ doesn't have the program (although it can be done in paint), she could send it to JR.
Thanks for the link.
You should come up to speed on Pissant’s rebuttal of that piece of fluff you posted.
A Freeper rebuttal to AJ Strata’s claim of debunking the Obama Birthgate doubters, part 1!
PA Times | 7/7/08 | Pissant
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2042120/posts
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 4:57:52 PM by pissant
Do you think these people will believe YOU if you posted my BC? No, they wouldn’t. That is why having Jim Robinson be the one to evaluate it would be important.
They wouldn’t believe me if I posted it; they won’t believe you either.
My BC says “Rev l1/01” just like Obama’s, and just like the DeCosta BC. Null and void mentioned that this shouldn’t make sense. That is a point I would agree on, but again, I am accepting the DeCosta BC as legit. Her BC looks very different than mine and Obama’s.
Man, are we getting flak. Or at least I am.
Again, I must be over the target.
Threats?
I ask you right now to state and quote any “threats” I have issued.
You are crazy.
I trust KJC1. She’s a long time freeper who helped with the AndyScam fiasco a couple of years ago.
Meant to include you in 3330.
I'd expect that they'd run the image through the same analytical software, and report what they find. If they make accusations of alterations, they can show it on their images and you ran rebut, or they can exonerate you. If you are accused of making alterations that you deny, then we'll be back at square one.
I don't expect people to alter your posted document and then accuse you of doing so, because what you post will be picked up by all the bloggers, analyzed, and added to the several examples of certificates that are already out there. At the very least, you'll be anonymously famous.
-PJ
Thank you, jellybean.
Thanks for the link.
I found comments #93 and #121 especially interesting.
Post #144 was mildly interesting.
And did you see post #201???
And once again, see post #244, just in case you thought I was the only person who thinks that when you change a form you give it a new rev letter and/or date....
No problem :)
Believe it or not, tapeworm, the very freepers you despise and excoriate in this matter would likely give your BC the utmost legitimate and fair scrutiny. Not that you care. Don’t post it. Go away.
“Obama has not released anything at all, no matter how you want to dress up the document on the Kos and Smear sites. Obama linked to an invalid web artifact”
You don’t know it’s ‘invalid’.
“But Obama has concocted evidence”
His campaign has released evidence, a scan of his COLB that says he was born in Hawaii. You cannot prove its legit without seeing the original and noboy has come even close to proving its a forgery.
” as it clearly is not the physical certified document”
Its impossible to ‘release’ a physical document on the web.
” demands that the rest of us accept it as legal and valid substitute”
He is not demanding any such thing. He is merely using a copy of his COLB to attest to his place of birth.
“I don’t have to concoct any evidence at all, because Obama has not offered any legal evidence in the first place.”
Were we in a courtroom and the burden was on him to prove it, I’d agree that he has not proven it beyond a reasonable doubt. But that still leaves the fact that *all* you have right now are doubts. The previous claims that ‘proved’ it was a forgery for various reasons? They were busted.
Tapeworm? LOL, that actually made me laugh.
Hard to argue with an insult like that. But you will fall flat on your face, with egg, when this all shakes out. Pardon me if I laugh heartily when that happens.
Right there on the form it says "ANY ALTERATION VOIDS THIS DOCUMENT"
Blacking out the cert # BY ITSELF suffices.
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