“Obama has not released anything at all, no matter how you want to dress up the document on the Kos and Smear sites. Obama linked to an invalid web artifact”
You don’t know it’s ‘invalid’.
“But Obama has concocted evidence”
His campaign has released evidence, a scan of his COLB that says he was born in Hawaii. You cannot prove its legit without seeing the original and noboy has come even close to proving its a forgery.
” as it clearly is not the physical certified document”
Its impossible to ‘release’ a physical document on the web.
” demands that the rest of us accept it as legal and valid substitute”
He is not demanding any such thing. He is merely using a copy of his COLB to attest to his place of birth.
“I don’t have to concoct any evidence at all, because Obama has not offered any legal evidence in the first place.”
Were we in a courtroom and the burden was on him to prove it, I’d agree that he has not proven it beyond a reasonable doubt. But that still leaves the fact that *all* you have right now are doubts. The previous claims that ‘proved’ it was a forgery for various reasons? They were busted.
Right there on the form it says "ANY ALTERATION VOIDS THIS DOCUMENT"
Blacking out the cert # BY ITSELF suffices.
Yes I do, because the document says that any alteration invalidates the document, and the only thing Obama released is an image of one side of a document altered with the certificate number blacked out. According to language on the document, that invalidates it.
I'm willing to accept that the actual document is valid if one is produced that is unaltered. Until that happens, I will not be bullied by Obama into accepting a web image depicting one side of an altered document as the real thing, with all the legalities that go with it.
His campaign has released evidence, a scan of his COLB that says he was born in Hawaii. You cannot prove its legit without seeing the original and noboy has come even close to proving its a forgery.
Again, I'm not claiming it's a forgery, I'm claiming that it is invalid as evidence because it has been altered. I am curious to know why only one side has been made available, as if it were the only side in possession, but I suppose that's the prerogative of the Obama campaign.
Its impossible to ‘release’ a physical document on the web.
Absolutely true, but since when did the Web become the vehicle for such things. What happened to calling a press conference and making the physical document available for inspection? That's the way it's been done for hundreds of years.
Were we in a courtroom and the burden was on him to prove it, I’d agree that he has not proven it beyond a reasonable doubt. But that still leaves the fact that *all* you have right now are doubts.
True. We are not in a courtroom, but he is seeking our votes, so the burden is on him to win them. If I have doubts, it is because he released an untraceable document because he blacked out the certificate number. Why should I accept that?
-PJ