I stupidly clicked on a link to Debka a few hours ago. Never really got there. My computer rebooted automatically and seemed a bit hosed when it came back up, so I restarted again. Zone Alarm was back at stage one. Every program was a first time internet access. I had to re-grant permission for IE to go online. I´m wondering if my setup is secure or if Debka dumped something sinister on me. Everything seems to be OK now, but I wonder. Please advise if you have some experience with them. Don´t ever, ever go to Debka !