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  • Live thread [05/20/2024]: Trump show trial in New York, brought to you by Obama-Biden operative Matt Colangelo; post comments here

    05/20/2024 7:58:23 PM PDT · 308 of 328
    Lod881019 to Sidebar Moderator

    Exactly he just was in front of the United States Congress and as a Alan Dershowitz said about an hour ago he’s never seen a trial like this in his life. That he saw more legal appeal errors in one day then he has in his entire career. The judge would literally not like Costello talk.

  • Teen rapper accidentally kills himself on social media video after pointing gun at his head and pulling trigger

    05/20/2024 7:58:21 PM PDT · 48 of 107
    healy61 to thegagline

    Ah, yes, he was rapping to Frankie Valli and the Four Seasons performing, Rag Doll.

  • The MAGA/America 1st Memorandum ~~ May 2024 Edition

    05/20/2024 7:58:17 PM PDT · 2,946 of 4,791
    djstex to edie1960

    See ya soon and off to the BIG “D” tomorrow at North Park Mall Dillards for work on my 64th Birthday! May 21,1960 and still running the roads for work! HA!

  • Latino students are the most segregated they've been since 1968

    05/20/2024 7:58:08 PM PDT · 5 of 56
    Jonty30 to yesthatjallen

    Whites are basically the peacemakers between everybody. Without us, you will have a world of chaos as everybody goes after everybody’s throats.

  • WHO IS VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY? (Zelensky Unmasked, Episode 1)

    05/20/2024 7:57:50 PM PDT · 7 of 16
    VeniVidiVici to Kazan

    Ritter?

  • As the war in Ukraine enters its third summer, Russia is on the offensive.

    05/20/2024 7:57:47 PM PDT · 5 of 28
    E. Pluribus Unum to MinorityRepublican
  • ‘Clear the courtroom!’ judge says over Trump witness’ sass

    05/20/2024 7:57:41 PM PDT · 114 of 140
    dfwgator to LachlanMinnesota
  • Pandemic Potential: New Research Shows H5N1 Bird Flu Can Transmit Through Air

    05/20/2024 7:57:35 PM PDT · 22 of 24
    dynachrome to Glad2bnuts

    See #4

  • As Denmark plans to make national service mandatory for young women, some say they are ready to 'send a signal to Russia'

    05/20/2024 7:57:31 PM PDT · 1 of 83
    MinorityRepublican
  • SICK: Ghouls at Cannes Film Festival Give 8 Minute Standing Ovation to Film “The Apprentice” with Trump Rape Scene

    05/20/2024 7:57:15 PM PDT · 18 of 29
    kiryandil to bray
    The ghouls at the Cannes Film Festival gave an 8-minute standing ovation.

    To paraphrase George Carlin:

    “Think of how stupid the average actor or actress is…and realize half of them are stupider than that.”

  • ‘Clear the courtroom!’ judge says over Trump witness’ sass

    05/20/2024 7:56:51 PM PDT · 113 of 140
    LachlanMinnesota to McGruff

    Ja Wohl Mein Fuhrer, er ... Richter Merchan.

  • Teen rapper accidentally kills himself on social media video after pointing gun at his head and pulling trigger

    05/20/2024 7:56:44 PM PDT · 47 of 107
    TribalPrincess2U to Reno89519

    >SUICIDE not an accident.<

    I agree.
    No one, I repeat, No one trips like that.

  • Teen rapper accidentally kills himself on social media video after pointing gun at his head and pulling trigger

    05/20/2024 7:56:21 PM PDT · 46 of 107
    dfwgator to lightman

    Exactly.

  • War and popularity keep Zelensky in power despite term expiring

    05/20/2024 7:56:09 PM PDT · 25 of 37
    Robert DeLong to Right_Wing_Madman
    In summation

    If you look at Article 106: 20) adopts a decision in accordance with the law on the general or partial mobilisation and the introduction of martial law in Ukraine or in its particular areas, in the event of a threat of aggression, danger to the state independence of Ukraine

    That kind of negates your contention that it remains silent in order that a president can't proclaim Martial Law in order to stop an election, because that gives specific authority.

    Interestingly I had typed but the removed a statement that said since the president has the authority to proclaim Martial Law, he could revoke Martial Law to hold the elections. But having not read the Constitution I wasn't exactly certain who had the authority to proclaim Martial Law, so I removed it not really knowing what the truth was, and determined that my statement was my belief and not proof.

    Turns out I was right. Zelenskyy himself could call and end to Martial Law & hold elections, but he won't because he would lose that election and he knows it.

    Thanks for bring up your argument, it gave me the needed push to look further.

    We both are in agreeance now though, when we state the election is not being held because of Zelenskyy himself.

    He has the power to declare Martial Law, and he has the power to also declare the end to Martial Law to hold the elections.

    He has chosen to use the law established in the Constitution to block the election.

    Explanation

    I put the summation on top as it is the important part of the post. I merely added all of the other stuff to provide the information which includes my listing of Article 83, his listing of Article 83 to compare to see if we were both working from the same source since he did not provide the link for the source, but I did. They seemed to match. So, then I posted his comment from the post he had provided the URL to of his original rebuttal of Article 83 and I provided the clickable link, back to that post. In that post he mentioned Articles 102-112 which pertain to the President, not the legislature as Article 83 does pertain strictly to the legislature. But he had not listed Articles 102-112, and after posting them I could see why he didn't. It wasn't an easy task to accomplish. So, following that I posted the Articles 102-112 which pertain to t he president.

    You are free to roam around or not within the entire long post, which I doubt many, if any, will. The only reason to do so would be one to see for themselves what I had done.

    That will also explain why I moved the summation to the top.🤣

    Article 83

    Regular sessions of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine commence on the first Tuesday of February and on the first Tuesday of September each year.

    Special sessions of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, with the stipulation of their agenda, are convoked by the Chairman of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, on the demand of no fewer National Deputies of Ukraine than one-third of the constitutional composition of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, or on the demand of the President of Ukraine.

    In the event of the introduction of martial law or of a state of emergency in Ukraine, the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine assembles within a period of two days without convocation.

    In the event that the term of authority of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine expires while martial law or a state of emergency is in effect, its authority is extended until the day of the first meeting of the first session of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine , elected after the cancellation of martial law or of the state of emergency.

    Adopted at the Fifth Session of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine on 28 June 1996

    What you provided in post 11 of thread Crimea Air Base on Fire After Second Night of Ukraine Strikes:

    Article 83

    Regular sessions of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine commence on the first Tuesday of February and on the first Tuesday of September each year.

    Special sessions of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, with the stipulation of their agenda, are convoked by the Chairman of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, on the demand of no fewer National Deputies of Ukraine than one-third of the constitutional composition of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, or on the demand of the President of Ukraine.

    In the event of the introduction of martial law or of a state of emergency in Ukraine, the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine assembles within a period of two days without convocation.

    In the event that the term of authority of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine expires while martial law or a state of emergency is in effect, its authority is extended until the day of the first meeting of the first session of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine , elected after the cancellation of martial law or of the state of emergency.

    It appears to me that we have both referenced the same Article 83 and that they march up word for word as being the same.

    Your comments previous to the above being posted were:

    Correct, but Article 83 dictates legislative authority and when the legislature is in session. It does not apply to Ukraine's executive branch, or president. The election of Ukraine's president and the president's authorities are covered in Articles 102-112, and that part of extending a president's power through martial law is nowhere to be seen in Ukraine's constitution. It was deliberately left out of Ukraine's constitution to prevent a president from declaring martial law in order to cancel elections.

    What wasn't provided were the articles 102-112, which you correctly state above refer to the President (after having added them, I can see why you didn't include them), so I will provided them here:

    Article 102

    The President of Ukraine is the Head of State and acts in its name.
    The President of Ukraine is the guarantor of state sovereignty and territorial indivisibility of Ukraine, the observance of the Constitution of Ukraine and human and citizens' rights and freedoms.

    Article 103

    The President of Ukraine is elected by the citizens of Ukraine for a five-year term, on the basis of universal, equal and direct suffrage, by secret ballot.
    A citizen of Ukraine who has attained the age of thirty-five, has the right to vote, has resided in Ukraine for the past ten years prior to the day of elections, and has command of the state language, may be elected as the President of Ukraine.
    One and the same person shall not be the President of Ukraine for more than two consecutive terms.
    The President of Ukraine shall not have another representative mandate, hold office in bodies of state power or in associations of citizens, and also perform any other paid or entrepreneurial activity, or be a member of an administrative body or board of supervisors of an enterprise that is aimed at making profit.
    Regular elections of the President of Ukraine are held on the last Sunday of October of the fifth year of the term of authority of the President of Ukraine. In the event of pre-term termination of authority of the President of Ukraine, elections of the President of Ukraine are held within ninety days from the day of termination of the authority.
    The procedure for conducting elections of the President of Ukraine is established by law.

    Article 104

    The newly-elected President of Ukraine assumes office no later than in thirty days after the official announcement of the election results, from the moment of taking the oath to the people at a ceremonial meeting of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine.
    The Chairman of the Constitutional Court of Ukraine administers the oath to the President of Ukraine.

    The President of Ukraine takes the following oath:

    "I, (name and surname), elected by the will of the people as the President of Ukraine, assuming this high office, do solemnly swear allegiance to Ukraine. I pledge with all my undertakings to protect the sovereignty and independence of Ukraine, to provide for the good of the Motherland and the welfare of the Ukrainian people, to protect the rights and freedoms of citizens, to abide by the Constitution of Ukraine and the laws of Ukraine, to exercise my duties in the interests of all compatriots, and t o enhance the prestige of Ukraine in the world."

    The President of Ukraine, elected by special elections, takes the oath within five days after the official announcement of the election results.

    Article 105

    The President of Ukraine enjoys the right of immunity during the term of authority.
    Persons guilty of offending the honour and dignity of the President of Ukraine are brought to responsibility on the basis of the law.
    The title of President of Ukraine is protected by law and is reserved for the President for life, unless the President of Ukraine has been removed from office by the procedure of impeachment.

    Article 106

    The President of Ukraine:

    1) ensures state independence, national security and the legal succession of the state;
    2) addresses the people with messages and the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine with annual and special messages on the domestic and foreign situation of Ukraine;
    3) represents the state in international relations, administers the foreign political activity of the State, conducts negotiations and concludes international treaties of Ukraine;
    4) adopts decisions on the recognition of foreign states;
    5) appoints and dismisses heads of diplomatic missions of Ukraine to other states and to international organisations; accepts credentials and letters of recall of diplomatic representatives of foreign states;
    6) designates an All-Ukrainian referendum regarding amendments to the Constitution of Ukraine in accordance with Article 156 of this Constitution, proclaims an All-Ukrainian referendum on popular initiative;
    7) designates special elections to the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine within the terms established by this Constitution;
    8) terminates the authority of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, if the plenary meetings fail to commence within thirty days of one regular session;
    9) appoints the Prime Minister of Ukraine with the consent of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine; terminates the authority of the Prime Minister of Ukraine and adopts a decision on his or her resignation;
    10) appoints, on the submission of the Prime Minister of Ukraine, members of the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine, chief officers of other central bodies of executive power, and also the heads of local state administrations, and terminates their authority in these positions;
    11) appoints the Procurator General of Ukraine to office with the consent of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, and dismisses him or her from office;
    12) appoints one-half of the composition of the Council of the National Bank of Ukraine;
    13) appoints one-half of the composition of the National Council of Ukraine on Television and Radio Broadcasting;
    14) appoints to office and dismisses from office, with the consent of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, the Chairman of the Antimonopoly Committee of Ukraine, the Chairman of the State Property Fund of Ukraine and the Chairman of the State Committee on T elevision and Radio Broadcasting of Ukraine;
    15) establishes, reorganises and liquidates, on the submission of the Prime Minister of Ukraine, ministries and other central bodies of executive power, acting within the limits of funding envisaged for the maintenance of bodies of executive power;
    16) revokes acts of the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine and acts of the Council of Ministers of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea;
    17) is the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine; appoints to office and dismisses from office the high command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and other military formations; administers in the spheres of national security and defence of th e State;
    18) heads the Council of National Security and Defence of Ukraine;
    19) forwards the submission to the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine on the declaration of a state of war, and adopts the decision on the use of the Armed Forces in the event of armed aggression against Ukraine;
    20) adopts a decision in accordance with the law on the general or partial mobilisation and the introduction of martial law in Ukraine or in its particular areas, in the event of a threat of aggression, danger to the state independence of Ukraine;
    21) adopts a decision, in the event of necessity, on the introduction of a state of emergency in Ukraine or in its particular areas, and also in the event of necessity, declares certain areas of Ukraine as zones of an ecological emergency situation — with subsequent confirmation of these decisions by the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine;
    22) appoints one-third of the composition to the Constitutional Court of Ukraine;
    23) establishes courts by the procedure determined by law;
    24) confers high military ranks, high diplomatic and other high special ranks and class orders;
    25) confers state awards; establishes presidential distinctions and confers them;
    26) adopts decisions on the acceptance for citizenship of Ukraine and the termination of citizenship of Ukraine, and on the granting of asylum in Ukraine;
    27) grants pardons;
    28) creates, within the limits of the funds envisaged in the State Budget of Ukraine, consultative, advisory and other subsidiary bodies and services for the exercise of his or her authority;
    29) signs laws adopted by the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine;
    30) has the right to veto laws adopted by the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine with their subsequent return for repeat consideration by the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine;
    31) exercises other powers determined by the Constitution of Ukraine.

    The President of Ukraine shall not transfer his or her powers to other persons or bodies.

    The President of Ukraine, on the basis and for the execution of the Constitution and the laws of Ukraine, issues decrees and directives that are mandatory for execution on the territory of Ukraine.

    Acts of the President of Ukraine, issued within the limits of authority as envisaged in subparagraphs 3, 4, 5, 8, 10, 14, 15, 17, 18, 21, 22, 23 and 24 of this Article, are co-signed by the Prime Minister of Ukraine and the Minister responsible for the act and its execution.

    Article 107

    The Council of National Security and Defence of Ukraine is the co-ordinating body to the President of Ukraine on issues of national security and defence.
    The Council of National Security and Defence of Ukraine co-ordinates and controls the activity of bodies of executive power in the sphere of national security and defence.
    The President of Ukraine is the Chairman of the Council of National Security and Defence of Ukraine.
    The President of Ukraine forms the personal composition of the Council of National Security and Defence of Ukraine.
    The Prime Minister of Ukraine, the Minister of Defence of Ukraine, the Head of the Security Service of Ukraine, the Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine and the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine, are ex officio members of the Council of Nation al Security and Defence of Ukraine.
    The Chairman of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine may take part in the meetings of the Council of National Security and Defence of Ukraine.
    Decisions of the Council of National Security and Defence of Ukraine are put into effect by decrees of the President of Ukraine.
    The competence and functions of the Council of National Security and Defence of Ukraine are determined by law. Article 108

    The President of Ukraine exercises his or her powers until the assumption of office by the newly-elected President of Ukraine.
    The powers of the President of Ukraine terminate prior to the expiration of term in cases of:
    1) resignation;
    2) inability to exercise his or her powers for reasons of health;
    3) removal from office by the procedure of impeachment; 4) death.

    Article 109

    The resignation of the President of Ukraine enters into force from the moment he or she personally announces the statement of resignation at a meeting of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine.

    Article 110

    The inability of the President of Ukraine to exercise his or her powers for reasons of health shall be determined at a meeting of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine and confirmed by a decision adopted by the majority of its constitutional composition on the basis of a petition of the Supreme Court of Ukraine – on the appeal of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, and a medical opinion.

    Article 111

    The President of Ukraine may be removed from office by the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine by the procedure of impeachment, in the event that he or she commits state treason or other crime.
    The issue of the removal of the President of Ukraine from office by the procedure of impeachment is initiated by the majority of the constitutional composition of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine.
    To conduct the investigation, the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine establishes a special temporary investigatory commission whose composition includes a special procurator and special investigators.
    The conclusions and proposals of the temporary investigatory commission are considered at a meeting of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine.
    For cause, the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, by no less than two-thirds of its constitutional composition, adopts a decision on the accusation of the President of Ukraine.
    The decision on the removal of the President of Ukraine from office by the procedure of impeachment is adopted by the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine by no less than three-quarters of its constitutional composition, after the review of the case by the Const itutional Court of Ukraine and the receipt of its opinion on the observance of the constitutional procedure of investigation and consideration of the case of impeachment, and the receipt of the opinion of the Supreme Court of Ukraine to the effect that the acts, of which the President of Ukraine is accused, contain elements of state treason or other crime.

    Article 112

    In the event of the pre-term termination of authority of the President of Ukraine in accordance with Articles 108, 109, 110 and 111 of this Constitution, the execution of duties of the President of Ukraine, for the period pending the elections and the assumption of office of the new President of Ukraine, is vested in the Prime Minister of Ukraine. The Prime Minister of Ukraine, for the period of executing the duties of the President of Ukraine, shall not exercise the powers envisaged by subparagraphs 2, 6, 8, 10, 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, 22, 25 and 27 of Article 106 of the Constitution of Ukraine.

  • Live thread [05/20/2024]: Trump show trial in New York, brought to you by Obama-Biden operative Matt Colangelo; post comments here

    05/20/2024 7:56:08 PM PDT · 307 of 328
    Lod881019 to AmericanInTokyo

    I’m still waiting for you to post anything positive in your life about Trump.

  • PolitiFact Spins For Democrats On Late-Term Abortion

    05/20/2024 7:55:59 PM PDT · 11 of 12
    daniel1212 to Morgana
    “Johnson...Every Senate Democrat has voted to support unlimited abortions up to the moment of birth....Davis simply replied, “That’s wrong.” He also added, “On the contrary, the measure — which has not become law — protects the right to an abortion up until the point of fetal viability, which is roughly reached at 24 weeks of pregnancy.” He further writes, “After that point, the legislation protects the right to abortion only "when, in the good-faith medical judgment of the treating health care provider, continuation of the pregnancy would pose a risk to the pregnant patient’s life or health," according to the bill's text.”

    Meaning that Johnson is correct, though he should have added "conditional," and which is what Davis could have said.

  • Teen rapper accidentally kills himself on social media video after pointing gun at his head and pulling trigger

    05/20/2024 7:55:54 PM PDT · 45 of 107
    lightman to dfwgator

    AIDS didn’t begin to become a “thing” until the early ‘80’s.

  • Teen rapper accidentally kills himself on social media video after pointing gun at his head and pulling trigger

    05/20/2024 7:55:29 PM PDT · 44 of 107
    dfwgator to Dave911

    That’s what happened with Terry Kath of Chicago.

  • Teen rapper accidentally kills himself on social media video after pointing gun at his head and pulling trigger

    05/20/2024 7:54:26 PM PDT · 43 of 107
    lightman to butterdezillion

    The misnamed “Great Society” program destroyed black family life in America generationally.

  • Teen rapper accidentally kills himself on social media video after pointing gun at his head and pulling trigger

    05/20/2024 7:54:06 PM PDT · 42 of 107
    dfwgator to 1FreeAmerican

    AIDS in 1976?