I've been grappling with whether the Energy Catalyzer that Focardi & Rossi are claiming will go into production in 6 months is a fraud or not. I wandered over to the Energy from Thorium discussion board to see how they are dealing with the latest set of facts, and I find many of their comments constructive to the ongoing debate. So I'm cherry picking some of them below, the ones I found most valuable. I think it's important to preserve this discussion because they have had threads on cold fusion pulled before, and this one is getting heated. various excerpts...