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In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Q ~ Trust Trump's Plan ~ 10/01/2025 Vol.512, Q Day 2896, numberonepal wrote:

Feels like a slow day. Is it just me?

I never know because you can't hear LurQers reading along with us unless they suffer from 'dry eye'. ;D

I never know who's reading, or who will come along 2 days from now and read our posts. But there is substantial foot traffic destroying the flooring of the threads as we build our way through them, so people are reading, whether we see them or not, or whether they comment or not.

I find it very creepy that the MSM is pushing the psyops regarding Ukraine so hard. It makes it seem like the False Flag planned in Ukraine is thisclose. Newsweek provides an example of the hard push of talking points: US To Give Ukraine Intel for Strikes Deep Inside Russia: Report.

MSM Outlets like the NYT among others are insisting Trump will give long range missiles and Intel to Ukraine and other innuendos to imply Trump is still funding the war. They apparently didn't know he washed his hands of the matter in his 'good luck' post. 

Below I focus on the missile aspect which is just another side of the same coin. I am cross-posting from a Ukrainian thread in case anyone is not familiar with the issue. All others, scroll away! :D

In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled US To Give Ukraine Intel for Strikes Deep Inside Russia: Report, ransomnote wrote:

FAKE NEWS Trump will not give Zelensky long range missiles to strike deep into Russia because he left the Ukraine war arena after his many attempts to bring a peace deal were ignored  Trump: "In any event, I wish both Countries well. We will continue to supply weapons to NATO for NATO to do what they want with them. Good luck to all!" 9/23/2025, 3:03:05 PM · by ransomnote · 75 replies truthsocial.com ^ | September 23, 2025 | President Donald J Trump GROK AI confirms President Trump's statements that the US no longer provides funds to Ukraine. All funds spent now are from prior Congressional Appropriations - no new ones planned 10/1/2025, 5:34:25 PM · by ransomnote · 34 replies October 1, 2025 | GROK AI Trump will not give Zelensky long range missiles to strike deep into Russia because Zelensky has repeatedly tried to False Flag the US into fighting Russia. Nov 15, 2018, the Ukraine fired a missile into  Poland and Zelensky blamed Russia. Even after NATO and BIden pulled back on their plans and said instead that the missile came from Ukraine, Zelensky continued to insist it was from Russia for the 2 days. Ukraine's Zelenskiy blames Russian missiles for deadly Poland explosion By Bogdan Kochubey November 15, 2022 3:14 PM CST Recently Russian drones were subjected to electronic jamming, driving them into Belarus. Once again, NATO/Zelensky fanned the story that Russia was encroaching/dangerous etc. Russian Drones Allegedly Swarm Poland in Major Provocation...But Whose?   09/14/2025 6:32:56 PM PDT · by EnderWiggin1970 · 37 replies Simplicius' blog ^ | 9/14/25 | Simplicius There are signs that NATO/Z have a 'better' False Flag to launch soon. Here's NATO and their Kiev puppet gearing up for their latest attempt to start WWIII and drag us into it: Kiev’s Gleiwitz Gambit: Europe on the Edge of 1939 Redux YouTube ^ | September 27, 2025 | Gerry Nolan Posted on 9/27/2025, 5:14:40 PM by House Atreides Gerry Nolan: "Kiev’s Gleiwitz Gambit: Europe on the Edge of 1939 Redux In 1939, the world stumbled into catastrophe after Nazi operatives staged the infamous Gleiwitz incident: a radio station seized, a body left as “proof,” and a lie broadcast to justify war. Eighty-six years later, whispers from the battlefield suggest Kiev may be scripting its own Gleiwitz 2.0. Only this time, the stage is NATO’s eastern flank, the props are repurposed Geran drones, and the audience is a sleepwalking Europe. MORE AT THE LINK Zelensky actually asked for 'pre-emptive' strikes against Russia in 2022. Ukraine Frantically Tries to Walk Back Zelensky Call for ‘Preemptive Strikes’ on Russia   10/07/2022 7:55:14 AM PDT · by ChicagoConservative27 · 125 replies Breitbart ^ | 10/07/2022 | Frances Martel Trump has pulled the US completely out of the conflict in Ukraine. There's no truth in assertions he's back in, helping Ukraine with long range missiles etc. Biden may have signed contracts to provide services from military contractors etc. for years in advance, but it's not President Trump arming Ukraine or promising long range missiles. The Wall Street Journal and others are distorting the meaning of a statement Vance made when asked if the US would supply long range missiles to Ukraine etc. - Vance did not say 'yes' but temporized by saying it's one of a number of requests made to the US. The US is not involved in the Ukraine war. President Trump wished all involved 'good luck' and left. NATO/Z  and our MSM are falsely implying otherwise because they need the optics. When Z/NATO launch their next false flag, they want to demand the US defend them (troops etc.) as a partner as if Trump never left the Ukraine arena.

I deeply regret missing the chance to post the Red October meme below on top of this thread. There will never be another Oct in History this 'RED' or important.

Gah!

*drowning my sorrows in a sea of popcorn*

Oct 1, 2020 Q4800  image:

You were trying to be considerate and people like me appreciate that.
Clearly the person who asked you to post the article in your comment is a fellow traveler who also didn’t know. Many don’t. I’ve made mistakes posting that I never did figure out why it was pulled. Live ‘n learn! :D

FAKE NEWS

Trump will not give Zelensky long range missiles to strike deep into Russia because he left the Ukraine war arena after his many attempts to bring a peace deal were ignored 

• Trump: "In any event, I wish both Countries well. We will continue to supply weapons to NATO for NATO to do what they want with them. Good luck to all!"

  9/23/2025, 3:03:05 PM · by ransomnote · 75 replies

  truthsocial.com ^ | September 23, 2025 | President Donald J Trump

• GROK AI confirms President Trump's statements that the US no longer provides funds to Ukraine. All funds spent now are from prior Congressional Appropriations - no new ones planned

  10/1/2025, 5:34:25 PM · by ransomnote · 34 replies

  October 1, 2025 | GROK AI

Trump will not give Zelensky long range missiles to strike deep into Russia because Zelensky has repeatedly tried to False Flag the US into fighting Russia.

Nov 15, 2018, the Ukraine fired a missile into  Poland and Zelensky blamed Russia. Even after NATO and BIden pulled back on their plans and said instead that the missile came from Ukraine, Zelensky continued to insist it was from Russia for the 2 days.

 

 

Ukraine's Zelenskiy blames Russian missiles for deadly Poland explosion

By Bogdan Kochubey

November 15, 2022 3:14 PM CST

Recently Russian drones were subjected to electronic jamming, driving them into Belarus. Once again, NATO/Zelensky fanned the story that Russia was encroaching/dangerous etc.

Russian Drones Allegedly Swarm Poland in Major Provocation...But Whose?
	09/14/2025 6:32:56 PM PDT · by EnderWiggin1970 · 37 replies Simplicius' blog ^ | 9/14/25 | Simplicius

There are signs that NATO/Z have a 'better' False Flag to launch soon. Here's NATO and their Kiev puppet gearing up for their latest attempt to start WWIII and drag us into it:

Kiev’s Gleiwitz Gambit: Europe on the Edge of 1939 Redux
YouTube ^ | September 27, 2025 | Gerry Nolan

Posted on 9/27/2025, 5:14:40 PM by House Atreides

Gerry Nolan: "Kiev’s Gleiwitz Gambit: Europe on the Edge of 1939 Redux

In 1939, the world stumbled into catastrophe after Nazi operatives staged the infamous Gleiwitz incident: a radio station seized, a body left as “proof,” and a lie broadcast to justify war. Eighty-six years later, whispers from the battlefield suggest Kiev may be scripting its own Gleiwitz 2.0. Only this time, the stage is NATO’s eastern flank, the props are repurposed Geran drones, and the audience is a sleepwalking Europe.
MORE AT THE LINK

Zelensky actually asked for 'pre-emptive' strikes against Russia in 2022.

Ukraine Frantically Tries to Walk Back Zelensky Call for ‘Preemptive Strikes’ on Russia
	10/07/2022 7:55:14 AM PDT · by ChicagoConservative27 · 125 replies Breitbart ^ | 10/07/2022 | Frances Martel

Trump has pulled the US completely out of the conflict in Ukraine. There's no truth in assertions he's back in, helping Ukraine with long range missiles etc. Biden may have signed contracts to provide services from military contractors etc. for years in advance, but it's not President Trump arming Ukraine or promising long range missiles.

The Wall Street Journal and others are distorting the meaning of a statement Vance made when asked if the US would supply long range missiles to Ukraine etc. - Vance did not say 'yes' but temporized by saying it's one of a number of requests made to the US.

The US is not involved in the Ukraine war. President Trump wished all involved 'good luck' and left. NATO/Z  and our MSM are falsely implying otherwise because they need the optics. When Z/NATO launch their next false flag, they want to demand the US defend them (troops etc.) as a partner as if Trump never left the Ukraine arena.

I have found AI makes errors. I look at the sources or tell the AI to list the sources and then check those links. If it looks alright, I forward it to a post. However, I am open to contradicting information if I find it.

I recently heard Musk said he wanted to ‘die on Mars, preferrably not on impact.’ Hence, I enjoyed your comment about the trajectory to Mars.

In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled How to contact an administrator at FR, Beowulf9 wrote:

Well, I got an answer, this is it: “Stop trying to bypass excerpt rules by putting the full article in the first comment. Next time will be a time out”. I only did that with the second posted article and would never know one cannot do that? I find this a strange response. Where does it tell us not to do that?

Hmmmm....well, excerpting keeps FR out of trouble regarding copyrighted material. Putting the full article in the first comment 'cheats' the rules and violates copyrighted material.

In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled GROK AI confirms President Trump's statements that the US no longer provides funds to Ukraine. All funds spent now are from prior Congressional Appropriations - no new ones planned, nickcarraway wrote:

I read everything you wrote. You specifically said you supported a country starting a war.

 That's a mis interpretation. President Trump said most Americans don't know our State Department helped overthrow the Ukraine. CIA's Barbra Nuland is on tape picking Ukraines new installed government...NATO is responsible for building up fortifications and building an army to take on Putin. Merkel later admitted that they (NATO) only agreed to the last treaty to 'buy time' to build up Ukraine for the war. This is NATO's war and it's not over yet. NATO still wants to force regime change in Russia. NATO is not our friend. Neither is Putin. As I write this I see the futility in trying to communicate with you. You'll just distill what I write, if I finished it, into a false statement like the one that started me replying to you. As it stands, you have only a fragment of my answer to distort into some new accusation that doesn't fit me.

In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled GROK AI confirms President Trump's statements that the US no longer provides funds to Ukraine. All funds spent now are from prior Congressional Appropriations - no new ones planned, nickcarraway wrote:

When did you go so far neocon/globalist?

I see you don't know the difference between neocon/globalist views and my views. No time for me to bring you up to speed. Let's just drop it.

Someone hung a massive sign on the fence of an overpass in Cuomo’s city that read, “Cuomo killed my mother.”

The sign was so large I suspect that person had help - maybe his siblings, uncles etc. helped hang the sign.

I’m sure they will all be comforted to hear Cuomo apologize...for lockdowns.

Lefty Meme. I totally forgot American soldiers went without pay during the prior shutdown or threat of shutdown re the wall. I checked and Federal funds are not being used to construct the ballroom so there's no reason it would halt construction during the shutdown.

What about killing the elderly? Did he apologize for that?

In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled US to provide Ukraine with intelligence for long-range strikes in Russia, WSJ reports, pierrem15 wrote:

I know, you know, and the Russians know the Europeans are using the interest on Russian money, and will probably soon start using the principal soon. They’re already talking about it. “Fines” for Russia’s drone and flight incursions if nothing else.

I was following that issue for some time and since use of the interest on Russian money is not legal, smaller NATO states refused to support it. I was aware of it when the UK kept talking about it as if they were reaching for an ink pen or the ink was in the process of drying, even when NATO nations refused. SO I have to see actual proof they went for it, and which nations obligated themselves that way when they see Trump refusing to fight for them.

In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled GROK AI confirms President Trump's statements that the US no longer provides funds to Ukraine. All funds spent now are from prior Congressional Appropriations - no new ones planned, Kazan wrote:

That doesn't negate the fact we're still providing intelligence and military planning to Ukraine. It's past time to give those responsibilities to the EU as well.

 I asked grok about this and assertions that we're still providing intelligence and/or we're going to provide long range missiles are, until I find better proof, FAKE NEWS.

Biden era funding may have purchase contracts to supply satellite coordinates or intel (gov contractors) and I'm not so sure the world would be safer when Ukraine fired it's missiles without accurate technology.

I don't think President Trump wants to jerk whatever support Biden set up out from under the Ukraine too rapidly. Grok confirmed that training of soldiers was being done under Biden funding and I just saw an article saying as early as February, Pete Hegseth was signalling the US intentions to signficantly reduce training efforts (Biden era training of Ukrainian soldiers) and that the EU needs to supply the lions share of the funding (which they don't have).

Here's Grok's info on Hegseth's statements in march to the UDCG (Ukraine Defense Contact Group) and I see notes that after this speech, Hegseth began skipping those UDCG meetings to signal the US distancing itself from the Ukraine war in order to serve US needs first:GROK SAYS:

Full Transcript of Relevant Remarks

You can read the complete official transcript on the U.S. Department of Defense website here: Opening Remarks by Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth at Ukraine Defense Contact Group

Key excerpts from the speech:

• "Safeguarding European security must be an imperative for European members of NATO. As part of this Europe must provide the overwhelming share of future lethal and nonlethal aid to Ukraine. Members of this Contact Group must meet the moment."
• "We're also here today to directly and unambiguously express that stark strategic realities prevent the United States of America from being primarily focused on the security of Europe. The United States faces consequential threats to our homeland... The U.S. is prioritizing deterring war with China in the Pacific, recognizing the reality of scarcity, and making the resourcing tradeoffs..."
• "We ask each of your countries to step up on fulfilling the commitments that you have made. And we challenge your countries... to double down and re-commit yourselves not only to Ukraine's immediate security needs, but to Europe's long-term defense and deterrence goals."

ransomnote: Since then, Trump has signaled he washed his hands of the Ukraine war. I can see some safety concerns if Zelensky is firing missiles inacurately. Everytime I see claims that Trump is going to supply long range missiles, I see an entirely different statement from Vance in which he diplomatically says the US is looking at a number of such requests (i.e., get in line Zelensky).

So it's likely Trump has zero intention of giving Zelensky long range missiles when Trump has said the US just sells weapons to NATO and Trump's facetious post saying he thinks Z can win back all their land - after telling Z over and over 'you don't have any cards.' Also, Trump is aware of Zelensky's attempts to False Flag the US into fighting Russia - why would Trump EVER give long range missiles to Zelensky?

NATO won't listen because it needs the US to fight it's war, and Trump isn't going to try to convince them anymore. They just won't get what they want and the US will turn its attention to our own concerns. Now NATO is set on supplying optics that Trump supports the war even though he attempted over and over to negotiate peace.

The NYT article linked below cites 'officials' and presents Deep State fabrications as news.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/24/us/politics/trump-ukraine.html

What worries me about this echo chamber of fake news among NATO and Ukraine, MSM etc. is they are doing this for a reason. They want to claim Trump is morally obligated to send troops to engage Putin when they launch their false flag. There's no other reason to do this unless they hope to deceive Putin. But Putin is listening to Trump's statements too, so I don't see how that will work.

I'll keep looking, but I have yet to find honest truth supporting MSM/NATO/Z claims.

 

In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled US to provide Ukraine with intelligence for long-range strikes in Russia, WSJ reports, pierrem15 wrote:

Trump doesn’t support US money supplying US weaponry to Ukraine, but is happy to have the Europeans buy them for delivery to Ukraine using Russian money.

Trump said the US was selling weapons to NATO which could do whatever it wants with them. He expressed no interest in WHY they were purchasing, where they were going, or how they were paid for. He expressed reluctance in making money from the sales and has never said, and will never say he's 'happy they are using Russian money'.

In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled GROK AI confirms President Trump's statements that the US no longer provides funds to Ukraine. All funds spent now are from prior Congressional Appropriations - no new ones planned, MinorityRepublican wrote:

A "big deal" for Ukraine: On July 14, 2025, Trump and Rutte announced an agreement in which NATO allies would purchase U.S. military equipment, such as Patriot missiles, and supply it to Ukraine.

Selling weapons to NATO is not the same as giving weapons to Ukraine. THe MSM is pushing hard on the optics to falsely portray Trump in the center of the proxy war so once the false flag kicks off, NATO can turn to Trump and say, "Well you have to help us NOW. You've been supporting this war all along!"

Trump tried to negotiate peace over and over and then finally in a recent comment, washed his hands of the conflict and wished all those in it "Good luck to all...."

Trump won't be fooled.

In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled GROK AI confirms President Trump's statements that the US no longer provides funds to Ukraine. All funds spent now are from prior Congressional Appropriations - no new ones planned, Stingray51 wrote:

I think your point is a good one. There are of course ongoing US operations in support of Ukraine apart from the supply of weapons. Examples: the US fusion center in Weisbaden from which the US military helps Ukraine run the war, the manned and unmanned intelligence flights that provide Ukraine (thru Wiesbaden presumably) the information it needs about targeting and Russian movements; the 150 (?) US military advisors in Ukraine assigned to the State Dept.... Now, how these activities (and perhaps more which are non-public) are being paid for (allocations from existing budgetary items or old money or whatever), IDK. Oh, and I thought we were giving them fuel also? Regardless, these costs are likely pretty modest compared to the weapons systems, munitions and direct funding of wages and government functions. So dumping all of that on our so-called allies is a solid accomplishment

The money for ongoing operations had to come from Biden era Congressional Apportionment. There are still funds available from Biden's many gifts to Ukraine.

Did you post images from either of those articles? There are specific rules for images which can’t include Getty or others etc.

If Jim received a takedown notice from either of those publications he may have instructed Mods to take down further articles, for now or?

I know that RealRawNews is not permitted and Bloomberg cannot be posted or even linked, as far as I know. I know of a few more but they don’t come to mind right now.

I will share your query on another thread. Hopefully you’ll receive comments from freepers about your specific publications. If you do, perhaps we could combine that info and my info and make it a post on the copyright thread for future reference. I’m sorry it happened to ya.

In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled GROK AI confirms President Trump's statements that the US no longer provides funds to Ukraine. All funds spent now are from prior Congressional Appropriations - no new ones planned, nickcarraway wrote:

Biden gave billions to Ukraine Do we have proof of that? Most of it was diverted to his domestic agenda?

Someone was propping up Ukraine and it wasn't the EU. US Taxpayer dollars have propped up the Ukraine, made it look like it has a functiong government and economy, made it look like they could win against a well armed country many times Ukraine's size/population. Then all the propaganda money.

SO I think Biden/Dems used the Ukrainian laundry in many ways. Sure Biden got payola, but I do think he gave Ukraine/NATO money because they are desperate.

The Deep State was going to launch this war on Hillary's watch, but she lost. So they helped steal the 2020 but I don't believe Biden got the much needed access to the nukes in the US arsenal. The plan was to start a proxy war and use US military might to defeat Russia because the Ukraine doesn't have the men, technology, money and neither does NATO have the men or weapons. Their military is defunct and their people inexperienced and woke. The US was supposed to fight and die, giving the globalists Russia and her nuclear arsenal on a platter.

They routed around their problems. Analyst Alexander Mercouris described NATO/Zelensky's tactics since the 2022 start of the proxy war as 'a series of attempts to involve the US in the war.'

All of Zelensky's 'Victory Plans' required the US to enter the war. Failing that, Zelensky keeps 'requiring' the US to provide 'security guarantees' (i.e., US peace keepers ) or else he won't negotiate for peace. If American peace keepers were in Ukraine, false flags would target them to summone the US into the war.

Now NATO is flaily wildly. They do have a false flag set up (posted to FR somewhere) and they are pretending we in the US would be betraying our International Promises if we don't come to their aid once they claim Russia attacked them (at least two hard attempts already - One Nov 15, 2018 was false claims Russia fired a missile into Poland but it was really a Ukrainian missile. The other last month when electronic jamming intentionally drove Russian drones over the border of ...was it Belarus?).

The next bid will be another claim of an attack by Putin. Since America is NOT FUNDING THE WAR anymore, it's important to set the record straight before they demand we 'honor article V' etc.

FAKE NEWS: This was distorted last week too. Vance was asked if the US would provide Tomahawk missiles.
Vance dodged an answer by saying they had many requests they are looking at.
People, that is not a promise. It's not even an answer. This comes after President Trump said the US no longer supports Ukraine war funding.

I posted a thread confirming that the US is not sending Ukraine weapons or money - it's NATO's baby now. They won't negotiate so they can deal with it.

• GROK AI confirms President Trump's statements that the US no longer provides funds to Ukraine. All funds spent now are from prior Congressional Appropriations - no new ones planned

  10/1/2025, 5:34:25 PM · by ransomnote · 18 replies

  October 1, 2025 | GROK AI

NATO/Zelensky have a False Flag in the works (1 or more of them?) and NATO wants to portray the US as actively supporting Ukraine when they launch their FF. President Trump has already hinted he won't back mutual defense clauses in the Ukraine war ("Well it depends on what you call 'defense'") and Hegseth plainly stated in the UK visit that the US would not honor article V re Ukraine.

The Wall Street Journal is pretending President Trump was being serious when he said he now thinks Ukraine can win the war.

This is bad - NATO is trying to fan America's participation in order to demand we 'honor' our (non) participation and article V of the NATO agreements when they deploy their False Flag to get us to fight Russia.