Posted on 10/27/2014 1:47:14 PM PDT by RaceBannon
The Big Bang “doesn’t contradict the intervention of a divine Creator, but demands it,” Pope Francis said Monday morning, because the beginning of the world “is not the work of chaos.” The Pope was addressing the plenary assembly of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, gathered in the Vatican to discuss “Evolving Concepts of Nature.” God is not some sort of wizard, said Francis, but rather “the Creator who brought all things into being.” The origin of the world derives directly “from a supreme Principle of creative love,” he added. “Evolution in nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation, because evolution requires the creation of beings that evolve.”
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Considering God's Word as the highest authority is ignorant? Really?
Actually, Genesis says that God was there in the beginning.
And of course, I wasn’t there, so have no idea how it was done, nor was anyone else. Well, except God, and He told us how it happened.
>>The creation of God, says Pope Francis. <<
Did you read the article? That is 180 degrees from what the Pontiff said.
Please, be accurate when paraphrasing.
If you want a fair discussion that is.
Then scripture is wrong.
I'm not sure where you stand on the issue. The Pope's sentiments reflect my long held beliefs. Intelligent design includes evolution.
I think information was given in a way that those at the time it was given would/could understand.
Scientists do the same today, they dumb down what they are saying for an audience that couldn't grasp what they were saying otherwise.
>>Actually, Genesis says that God was there in the beginning.<<
Which is what the Pope said.
>>And of course, I wasn’t there, so have no idea how it was done, nor was anyone else. Well, except God, and He told us how it happened.<<
Yes and Genesis reads like the Big Bang, almost exactly matching the Science in terms of sequence.
>>I do not believe that the letters and revelations in the bible were meant to be used by future generations as science books.
I think information was given in a way that those at the time it was given would/could understand.
Scientists do the same today, they dumb down what they are saying for an audience that couldn’t grasp what they were saying otherwise.<<
This is the Religion forum and certain avenues of discussion are discouraged.
At this time the question is the veracity of the Pope’s statement and how it ties into to Scripture (which it does perfectly).
Depends upon which death you are addressing. Jesus taught his disciples that there is more than one kind of death. ‘Let the dead go bury the dead’ ... as succinct a statement as The Lord could make, and as usual bringing the complex down to our level.
sigh.
right...we need to give up the wheel and fire too.
because God does not want us to learn the secrets of creation, just sit fat and happy in the garden...oh wait, he took away the garden, sorry, never mind.
my first teacher of biology (and evolution...) was a RC Marist Brother, HS teacher who had no problem with believe in both science and God.
that was my way of agreeing with the pope and stating the reason for my agreement.
“In the beginning there was nothing, then it exploded into matter and anti-matter.”
BINGO we have a winner!!
I thought it was Larry Flynt???
Yes, the KJV is definitive... er, uh...
The seedbed of Big Bang speculations are ancient global cosmic events described by Eastern Advaitans and Greek nature sages as Cosmic Eggs. One Hindu belief was that Brahman (the Void or energy field) spontaneously generated itself as something like a seed or singularity about 4.3 billion years ago and then evolved under its’ own power by which it expanded and formed all that exists:
“These Hindus believed in an eternal Universe that had cycles of rebirth, destruction and dormancy, known as ‘kalpas’, rather like oscillating big bang theories. We also read in the Hindu Bhagavad Gita that the god Krishna says, ‘I am the source from which all creatures evolve.” (Evolution: An Ancient Pagan Idea, Paul James Griffith, creation.com)
I'm not sure where you stand on the issue. The Pope's sentiments reflect my long held beliefs. Intelligent design includes evolution.
Mankind has not evolved from an ape or any other animal. Genesis records that only man was created in God's image. None of the animal kingdom is described that way.
If you believe evolution you believe man has changed in some way from something in the past like an ape or amoeba to where we are today.
That is not supported by the Bible.
Adaptation can be observed in nature, but not evolution. By adaptation I mean a species adapting to it's environment. By evolution I mean a species changing from one form to another.
A big difference between the two.
I believe in the literal interpretation of the six day creation account as recorded in the Bible.
Moses (who wrote Genesis) was from the Stone Age? Really?
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