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SCOTUS strikes down Texas sodomy ban
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Posted on 06/26/2003 7:08:23 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo
SCOTUS sided with the perverts.
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To: OWK
Except, of course, for slack-jawed parrots of the OWK party lineI've always wanted a slack-jawed parrot. Very rare; mostly found in the Patagonia.
441
posted on
06/26/2003 9:22:23 AM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
To: tdadams
Libertarians may be cheering, but not for the reasons you state. They are cheering the fact that the USSC has struck down a law that, in contravention of our Bill of Rights and respect for individual liberties, had nevertheless existed for too many years. The Bill of Rights never spelled out a generalized sodomy right, unless the 10th Amendment is an anything-goes wild card. Not even the most libertarian of the founding fathers would have bought the notion that states had to respect sodomy rights.
To: IowaHawk
I don't know if I really want to live in a country where the police aren't allowed to arrest people for doing all kinds of icky-poo things, right out in the middle of their own bedrooms and such.Damn those Libertarians.
Damn them to hell.
443
posted on
06/26/2003 9:23:08 AM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
To: OWK
I have a fan club? Yes, and as treasurer and collector of zillions of dollars in dues, I thank you for putting me in a lifestyle to which everyone would want t grow accustomed.
Remind me to send you some souvenirs from the next money drop in Switzerland.
;)
To: Lazamataz
Don't forget about the ear wax.
445
posted on
06/26/2003 9:23:37 AM PDT
by
Liberal Classic
(Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est.)
To: The Red Zone
How about let's all see YOU do that. I'm all about the big finale at the end...
I'll be happy to do it after you do.
So how's about it..?
What are rights. Define them for me.
Are you up to it?
Do you even have any idea?
446
posted on
06/26/2003 9:23:41 AM PDT
by
OWK
To: OWK
I have a fan club? Cool. Just look in the mirror, you'll see the club.
To: HumanaeVitae
" trust the state legislatures to amend the Constitution"Historically it was the promise of a Bill of Rights that swayed the vote for the Constitution. Which one of the 10 makes you unhappy?
To: sinkspur
Wow. The bedroom is now a sactuary?
I think may be next to go, followed by statutory rape, incest, and then nationwide recognition of gay marriage.
SCOTUS just defined sodomy as normal sexual behavior between adults. There is no reason, then to not legally recognize marriage between men.
To: Lazamataz
Libertarians cause rust. We also cause plaque build-up on your teeth.
450
posted on
06/26/2003 9:24:19 AM PDT
by
Dead Corpse
(For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
To: BlackjackHF
I would love for you to show me where in the constitution it says the SC can dictate what is moral.Actually, I would love for you to show me where in the constitution it says that YOU can dictate what is moral.
To: Thane_Banquo
I agree. Let's immediately strike down laws on rape, child molestation, murder, fraud, perjury, tax evasion, treason, assault, battery, etc. etc. ad nauseum. All laws are regulations of morality.
you are so off base it isn't even funny, we are talking about consenting adults,
that are not harming anyone
and you turn into a rape, murder scenario,
way to go Einstien
452
posted on
06/26/2003 9:25:12 AM PDT
by
vin-one
(I wish i had something clever to put in this tag)
To: dead
Typical gutless move. Next time, show some courage and ping me if you want to call me names.Dane got pissed cuz I did that yesterday. So I promised -- just to piss him off -- I'd never ping him.
Dane really sucks, doesn't he? :o)
453
posted on
06/26/2003 9:25:25 AM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
To: Kevin Curry
Libertarians are cheering the usurpation of the legislative powers reserved to the states by an all-powerful federal governmental body. I consider myself to lean Libertarian (small, limited, well-defined federal government), and I'm neither celebrating nor lamenting the decision.
This decision is not a usurpation of legislative powers. It has always been the case that the federal courts can (and should) strike down unConstitutional state laws... unless you were perfectly happy with Jim Crow laws. (In fact, I don't remember you on that side of the the WBTS threads. I should ping all those usual suspects... they'd have a conniption if they saw you supporting states rights, LOL.)
While I'm all for a limited federal government, one of their appropriate functions is to strike down unConstitutional state laws (although it should be struck down in the lower state courts). Nothing gives the states the power to usurp the Constitution. SCOTUS has just declared that the Constitutional does not allow sodomy laws of this kind. I can see the results being Constitutionally supportable and consistent, but I would have though that an Equal Protection argument would have been far better.
My main worry is that this logic will be extended to marriage ("since two men can consent to it, and it is allowed when a straight couple consents to it, then it should be allowed"). My argument against would be that the institution is a religious one, and that the state can only rule over civil institutions. Then, of course, the states would create civil unions, and give them the same rights and benefits that married couples enjoy. It is coming.
Comment #455 Removed by Moderator
To: Liberal Classic
Don't forget about the ear wax.Libertarians cause vitamin deficiencies in infants born in foreign lands.
456
posted on
06/26/2003 9:26:22 AM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
To: OWK
When did the Bill of Rights change to give this protection to homosexuals and deny the state the power to make this law? "blah, blah... "
I'm sure there are several sites that aren't concerned with our constitution where you wouldn't be a hinderence to discussing it.
(Thus ends my time limit for the troll)
457
posted on
06/26/2003 9:26:32 AM PDT
by
mrsmith
To: Lazamataz
"I've always wanted a slack-jawed parrot. Very rare; mostly found in the Patagonia"Who could not love a slack-jawed parrot from Patagonia? Unless of course the parrot is a Libertarian :-)
458
posted on
06/26/2003 9:26:57 AM PDT
by
MJY1288
(The Gifted One is Clueless)
To: Dead Corpse
We also cause plaque build-up on your teeth.I always wondered who caused that. Now I know -- Libertarians.
459
posted on
06/26/2003 9:27:17 AM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
To: B Knotts
You can use similiar language to invalidate Federal and State DOMA's. They too are facially discriminatory. It won't be long before the SCOTUS apes Canada by declaring laws confining marriage to a man and a woman ipso facto, violate the 14th Amendment. This is just the foot in the door the heterophobes have been waiting for. Don't think the implications of today's ruling sanctioning gay sex in one's bedroom are not confined to the larger issues at stake. Justice Breyer's decision can and will be used as a battering ram against the remaining vestiges of traditional morality on the grounds its demeans some minority group. After for liberals, its all about feelings, not the rule of law and if y'all liked Monday's SCOTUS decision sanctioning soft bigotry, you'll love it when one day the Court decides marriage no longer means what it now means.
460
posted on
06/26/2003 9:27:22 AM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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