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Plane Crashes into World Trade Center
NewYork1 | 9/11/01

Posted on 09/11/2001 5:56:49 AM PDT by hellinahandcart

Just in. I am looking at a picture of the WTC with smoke pouring out of the western tower. Looks like a huge amount of damage. Debris raining down on people in the street.


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To: Stu Cohen

Tony Blair stepped to the plate. At the time he mde his statement before Parliament it was thought that 7,000 Americans perished. He asked Britains if they really thought that Osama bin Laden would not have killed 70,000 instead of 7,000. He was right.


621 posted on 05/19/2005 5:42:14 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (••• ••• •••)
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To: Law is not justice but process
That would lead me to estimate that, since the vast majority of illegal aliens are Hispanic, the share of murders committed by illegal aliens is well under 500 per year

Wow, LAPD estimates 600 gang killing each year, half which are Latino gangs giving us what .... 300 in LA alone?

That leaves 300 for the rest of the country? That's very impressive.

I'm not sure about your numbers either.

There are plenty of reasons why addressing the illegal immigration problem should be a priority. Vast numbers of murders by illegal aliens is probably not one of them. You only undermine your own credibility when you use inaccurate numbers.

See above. BTW, Hispanics are often counted as "Caucasion" for some nutty reason depending on who does the counting. I never really could figure that one out, but it's not my decision to make.

And I don't doubt your credentials as a prosecutor, but here in LA we get the daily murders suspect alert every week which at least two or three (or more) is Hispanic.

500 a year?

I doubt it. Are those numbers based just on convictions alone? If so, they might make some sense. But there is a difference between solved crimes and committed crimes.

622 posted on 05/19/2005 5:44:10 PM PDT by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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To: Law is not justice but process
BTW ...

Prior to 1986, Hispanics were classified as a distinct and separate racial group. Not anymore. The FBI and U.S. Census Bureau no longer distinguish between Hispanics (who are actually Spanish speaking Indians for the most part) and Whites; their crimes are lumped together in one ethnic pot. The 22,354,059 Hispanics living in the U.S. do not exist, at least not in the ethnic sense when it comes to the FBI compiling criminal statistics for mainstream and news organizations.

623 posted on 05/19/2005 5:58:37 PM PDT by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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To: BunnySlippers
Tony Blair stepped to the plate. At the time he mde his statement before Parliament it was thought that 7,000 Americans perished. He asked Britains if they really thought that Osama bin Laden would not have killed 70,000 instead of 7,000. He was right.

Well sure. And Tim McVeigh probably would have taken out all of Oklahoma City (300,000 or so people) if he could have.

What does that mean? That there are lots of assholes that would do as much damage as they could if they absolutely could?

I'm pretty sure we all know that.

624 posted on 05/19/2005 6:02:59 PM PDT by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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To: rwa265

Thank you for sharing this. And thank you for raising children of such character, through whom many will certainly be blessed.


625 posted on 05/19/2005 6:29:25 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: Stu Cohen

A mere shutting off of the borders and deporation of those who are here illegally would all but eliminate the foreign threat.

I agree that this would be extremely effective. As you have written elsewhere on this thread, candidates with this stance don't make it on a national level. You would think that 9/11 would have made a majority of Americans more willing to take drastic steps to curb illegals, but instead we had a backlash of "tolerance." Liberals in Ann Arbor brought flowers and gifts to the Muslim-American schools right after 9/11 to show how loving and tolerant we are. Instead of hearing about the Americans who died, after 9/11 we almost immediately started hearing in the MSM about the imaginary threat to islamists living in the U.S. I would hate to think it will take an even bigger tragedy to wake people up.

626 posted on 05/19/2005 8:06:51 PM PDT by Elvina
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To: Stu Cohen

Well, I just got my M-1 Garand in the mail yesterday, so I have to disagree with the "disarmed public"...

But thanks for the generally civil response.


627 posted on 05/19/2005 9:10:28 PM PDT by rlmorel
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To: hellinahandcart

Ping for future reference


628 posted on 05/23/2005 2:19:12 PM PDT by ColoCdn (Neco eos omnes, Deus suos agnoset)
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To: SheLion

Memorial Day ping from the live thread on 9-11.

Prayers for all the souls that lost their lives that day.

May they rest in peace!


629 posted on 05/30/2005 10:00:22 AM PDT by Mears (Keep the government out of my face!)
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To: Mears

This changed everything. I will talk and tell others about this until I die.


630 posted on 06/01/2005 11:19:36 PM PDT by Dallas59 (" I have a great team that is going to beat George W. Bush" John Kerry -2004)
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To: Mears

Does anyone know if it is possible to get unedited copies of that days TV broadcasts?


631 posted on 06/01/2005 11:58:49 PM PDT by fella
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To: Dallas59; fella

I was not around FR on 9-11 and found the live thread absolutely fascinating.

I don't know if there are any unedited copies of TV broadcasts. I was listening to my car radio and had to pull over since 2 of my kids were in harm's way. Fortunately all worked out okay,for us, but I would love a copy of the tape from that radio station.

Good luck and let me know if you find anything?


632 posted on 06/02/2005 9:25:50 AM PDT by Mears (Keep the government out of my face!)
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To: Mears

I have the broadcast from abc/nbc of that day. I will try to put it on putfile. Windows Movie Maker takes forever to compress 675mb to 10.


633 posted on 06/02/2005 10:42:46 AM PDT by Dallas59 (" I have a great team that is going to beat George W. Bush" John Kerry -2004)
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To: Dallas59

Yup. I remember that day like it was yesterday.

All the co-workers listening to radio - we produced NOTHING that day.....


634 posted on 06/02/2005 10:45:38 AM PDT by traumer
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To: Dallas59

Thanks for the info !


635 posted on 06/02/2005 3:46:16 PM PDT by Mears (Keep the government out of my face!)
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To: Mears

bttt


636 posted on 06/02/2005 3:48:13 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: traumer
Have the first part of the vid at Putfile. Newscasts from before and after 8:00am Tuesday, September 11th 2001. The audio is bad. You'll have to turn down the sound. This was recorded from 2002 of a now defunct website.

Click here to watch 911P1.

Link to forum post here
637 posted on 06/03/2005 7:04:04 AM PDT by Dallas59 (" I have a great team that is going to beat George W. Bush" John Kerry -2004)
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To: devolve; potlatch; PhilDragoo; Smartass

Never Forget ping


638 posted on 06/18/2005 10:11:42 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: hellinahandcart

June 18, 2005

Just looking at the pictures and this thread again
brought back tears to my eyes. I can't talk, either.


639 posted on 06/18/2005 10:13:06 PM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: ntnychik
THANKS FOR THE PING



WE WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER

 

640 posted on 06/18/2005 10:31:42 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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