Posted on 10/02/2015 7:08:25 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Courts, businesses, schools and legislatures grapple with transitioning reality.
Caitlyn Jenner is now a woman in the eyes of the law. The transgendered woman, who has become an international symbol of the right to choose one’s own sexual identity, legally switched genders Sept. 25.
Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Gerald Rosenberg signed the paperwork. Now the woman who was born William Bruce Jenner on Oct. 28, 1949, can get a new driver’s license and Social Security card, along with all of the other government documents that everyone needs.
But will that be enough to allow the former Olympic athlete to enter the women’s locker room at Planet Fitness? Maybe. And if she does, will Caitlyn’s new legal status be enough for the women who would be changing their clothes and showering alongside her?
The answer has to be “no” for Michigan woman Yvette Cormier. She has sued her local Planet Fitness franchise and the national gym chain’s parent company because her membership was cancelled after Yvette refused to stop warning other women about a transgendered woman — male appendage still intact — that she saw in the showers.
Her suit claims emotional distress, numerous violations of the Michigan Consumer Protection Act, and an invasion of privacy were all caused by Planet Fitness’ policy of allowing transgenders to change and shower with women.
However, the judge hearing the case is having trouble dealing with the allegation at the heart of Yvette’s legal action: that simply the presence of a man claiming to be a woman in the locker room and showers of Planet Fitness constitutes sexual harassment under the Elliott-Larsen Civil Rights Act.
Midland County, Mich., Circuit Court Judge Michael Beale pointed out in a 90-minute hearing that Yvette was never touched by the transgendered woman in question. But her attorney, David Kallman, argued a transgender-friendly policy is “sexual in nature by allowing men in the women’s locker room,” not to mention the fact that women and men are naked together in the same locker room and taking showers together.
Arthur Pressman, an attorney for Planet Fitness, spoke for his client when he told reporters, “We don’t judge our members and we don’t allow them to judge each other.”
Try telling that to the parents of children in the Troy City Schools in Troy, Ohio.
Kids in that school system are allowed to choose which restroom and locker room they use, depending on their “sense of gender,” regardless of which sex they were assigned at birth.
“I think there’s a lot of unnecessary fears around this. For our son, who started his transition in high school, he used the boy’s bathroom and it was honestly a non-event,” Laticia Miller, parent of a transgender student, told WKEF-TV after the school district held a public meeting led by the head of Cincinnati Children’s Hospital’s transgendered clinic to help parents of the rest of the kids deal with their fears.
“We need to understand showering or dressing next to a member of the transgendered is nothing to get excited about,” a social worker explained to parents during a similar meeting in an upstate New York school district.
“Gender originates in the brain. It has nothing to do with external genitalia at all and it is not a choice for transgender people,” Patricia Jordan told WICZ-TV.
It is still all about external genitalia in Massachusetts, where the state’s governor and a dozen of its largest cities are at odds over what the Massachusetts Family Institute calls “the Bathroom Bills.”
Ironically, the debate is taking place in the fictional home state of Cage, Fish & Associates, the law firm where Ally McBeal and her associates shared a unisex restroom [1] on the Fox TV show.
Boston Mayor Martin J. Walsh and eleven of his mayoral peers announced their support for Senate Bill 735 and its companion, House Bill 1577, in early September.
The legislation would extend Massachusetts’ non-discrimination laws by adding gender identity to the list of protected classes, granting explicit protection for transgender people in public spaces.
“Everyone has the right to enjoy retail stores, hotels, restaurants, hospitals, theaters, public parks, and public transportation,” said Mayor Walsh. Left unspoken by Walsh is the real intent of the bills: to make sure everyone can choose which bathroom to use.
If the Legislature passes what Walsh has endorsed, Gov. Charlie Baker (R) has promised to veto it. Although he has not issued an official statement, Baker has said through his top aides that he would prefer the state’s non-discrimination laws be left alone.
Kris Mineau, the board chairman and president emeritus of the Massachusetts Family Institute, has been much more outspoken in opposition to the legislation.
“If House Bill 1577 becomes law, men will be allowed to shower with women and young girls in gyms, and schoolchildren as young as kindergarten will be allowed to co-mingle in bathrooms,” Mineau told the Daily Item. “No law should make whole segments of the population feel unsafe and exploit their privacy and security.”
And then there is what actress Courtney Thorne-Smith, who played the role of Georgia Thomas on the Ally McBeal show, said about using a unisex bathroom: “There is just so much room to play in there.”
Many, Many, Many spas, hotels and health clubs have facilities for only two genders regardless of age. It is expected that a responsible guardian would be with a child in the locker rooms.
Try to explain to an eight year old girl about the twigs and berries dangling from the incredibly ugly ‘woman’ next to her in the shower.
Say anything to the ‘woman’ and YOU get sued and publicly shamed.
If this is true, then it explains why the law screws with us so much.
“We need to understand showering or dressing next to a member of the transgendered is nothing to get excited about,”
Sorry, libs. You already made it a POINT OF LAW that sexual harassment is in the eye of the beholder, so you don’t get to tell us whether a transgender showering next to us is creating a hostile environment or not. If it is our subjective opinion that it is, then, according to THE LAW, it is.
This is insane.
If it looks like a duck
and it walks like a duck
and it quacks like a duck
then its a chicken if it thinks its a chicken
Politically Correct perversion. Still perversion. If a dude shows up in the gym’s Woman’s locker room, it should be reported to the management and the local police.
Next men will be allowed to compete in women’s sports. Say goodbye to Title 9.
This is Cultural Marxism at work. The idea is to ‘deconstruct’ sexual identity ( remove all the meaning from it ) and then reconstruct it under Marxist principles. There’s nothing to engage. We need to fight back.
The Williams sisters are bad enough, but when grotesque drag queens are able to compete in women’s tennis interest will skyrocket.
A MALE appendage means... regardless of what ANYONE says, states, or claims, a penis means male.
Remove the appendage and then we can call you a "male" without a penis.
Stay out of the girls locker room. In fact let the workout facility absorb the cost of creating a third lockerroom facility, a TRANSGENDER locker room at their OWN expense.
Ya, I’ve heard this reasoning before, that we are too focused on genitalia and that makes us bigoted.
We are also too “binary” in our thinking about sex and gender. You thought there were only two sexes, male and female? It turns out that there are at least 56 different identified gender identities.
Send me to reeducation camp right now. 56 gender identites? I can identity a few: male, female, gay male, gay female, bisexual people; what are the rest????
Harassment ,is this no longer a big thing
In all the blather about considering the feelings of the transgendered, why is there no talk about the feelings of normal women? If almost everyone is uncomfortable, by definition, there is a problem. And, correcting it is easy enough... IT can shower at home, rather than mess up everyone’s day, or wind up with a private shower built for 20.
They have suspended reality for fantasy.
Just another Satanic upheaval of God’s Creation.
Seriously, that’s all it is.
It would be physical assault if my wife was in the shower area for WOMEN at the gym and a MAN stepped in regardless if he thought he was a women or a jackass.............
It’s not a penis, it’s just a very large...never mind!
Brilliant.
The majority of black robes are now homofascists as the Nazis SS and will condition the children to “think” that boys can be girls and males and females are interchangeable and Man/Boy “Love” is the supreme pleasure.
Our “Justice System” is a Vice system which is unconstitutional on all levels (read my tagline). All “unjust” laws are “null and void” and need to be disobeyed and removed by the true justices.
The “norm” (utopia) of socialized, “collective” minds (controlled by the elite) is the inability for individualism—”thinking outside the box”. The masses only “think” and desire what is being programmed into them.
This programming to flip Good and Evil and erase Christianity (regress back to paganism/satanism) is the attempt to remove Reason and Logic (Christianity is the only rational religion) from the USA and destroy our Constitution.
Fichte (1810) stated this German “goal” to destroy the mind of children-—to make them incapable of Wisdom and abstract thinking skills which only Classical Education does (Socratic Method/Aristotelean Logic). It is to create these “happy slaves” for the State——collective, group “thinkers”-—who just are told/programmed “what” to think-—like Pavlov’s dog.
Our next generation (the ones soaking in the toxic, irrational “culture” of Jenner/MSM cr*p) will be so dumb and ignorant of Natural Law Theory (Common Sense), they will be made easily into “happy slaves” and interchangeable drones for the elite use. They will be programmed to be “happy” like the obamaphone lady-—with crumbs of the elites.
Vice creates slaves and our “Justice” system and public schools ONLY promote Vice, dependence and stupidity——intentionally-—to destroy and corrupt the children and erase Christian Worldview (the only Worldview which gave us Individualism and the most Freedom in history).
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