Posted on 04/29/2011 9:26:36 AM PDT by marktwain
There are three issues that could presently trigger a Civil War in America:
* Illegal aliens. A government that refuses to protect our borders, the methodical structure of citizenship, and the rule of law, will only be tolerated for so long. America is reaching a tipping point on this issue.
* Abortion. Irreconcilable differences here. This may likely become as potent an issue as slavery was in the 1860s.
* The right to keep and bear arms - see "2A Today for The USA"
No other significant present day problems could potentially result in the brother against brother tragedy of a Second American Civil War.
Sooner or later, the massive invasion of America by illegal aliens will be confronted, if not by the rule of law then by either armed police officers and soldiers or armed citizens. There are twenty million or more illegal aliens entrenched in this nation now. How many tens of millions more will it take to reach a tipping point? At what point will law enforcement agencies and/or the military begin to do the job they were sworn to do? At what point will citizens themselves be forced, by government inactivity, to confront this invasion by force of arms?
Will the liberal politicians actually allow this showdown? Is this actually the sort of crisis opportunism that Obamas Rahm Immanuel, and other leftist cultural Marxists, relish?
As an American, and a gun owner, would you take to the street to confront this illegal alien invasion? Do you have a personal breaking point on this issue?
I wont deal with abortion here, except to note that the anti-abortion forces have the same moral intensity and personal commitment that was demonstrated by the slavery abolitionists of the nineteenth century. We saw where that led in America.
However, there is a third possible cause of a Second American Civil War: infringement of the right to keep and bear arms.
This nations Second Amendment freedoms have too long been burdened with the lethargic, tunnel vision behavior of the gun owners known as Elmer Fudds, or, as Aaron Zelman used to call them quackers. This is the good ole boy type who simply doesnt care about gun registrations, permits, regulations, or even confiscations, as long as he can keep his deer rifle or shotgun and exercise his sportin rights. This myopic fellow can be bought off for the price of a buck tag or duck license. Even Senator Chuck Schumer is a Fudd! I aint gonna take your shotguns away, fellas!
On the other side of the room from the Fudds is the Cold Dead Fingers crowd. A lot of tough talk over in that camp. A lot of arm chair patriotism and rhetorical heat. A lot of let em try to take my guns! chest puffing. But somewhere at the core of this quite large group of gun owners is a determined minority that does really mean it.
I would assert that every single one of these very determined armed Americans has some idea, deep in his or her heart, as to what their personal line in the sand actually is. When it comes to this amorphous, mostly low profile, group, the hammer is cocked. These folks are getting to be known as the Three Percenters.
What the cultural Marxists, elitists, and authoritarians who advocate gun control (read "Know Thine Enemy") dont seem to be able to grasp is the strange fact that a significant minority of human beings are willing to fight ferociously to preserve their freedoms. This irascible minority has yet to be awakened to action. But theyre sleeping with one eye open.
The attacks on the Second Amendment have, since 1934, been so gradual and incremental that the victim disarmament forces have prevailed to an amazing degree. They hear the loud complaints of gun owners, then make strategic compromises with other compromisers, and then, sure as day, theres another gun regulation, permit process, limitation, restriction, tax burden, or license needed for each of us to exercise an unalienable right that, according to the American Bill of Rights, shall not be infringed.
Makes me think of the laughs I got as a kid when, in the Bugs Bunny cartoons, Elmer Fudds head turned into a big SUCKER when Bugs had tricked him once again. What also comes to mind is Charlie Brown and Lucy with her football, the football, that, to my knowledge, Charlie Brown was never able to kick. Only, unlike the comics, few of us are smiling about this. This could become deadly serious. Because the sneaking vermin cannot be allowed to win.
What must be obvious to any truly concerned American gun owner is that we absolutely must take EVERY action afforded us to prevent a Second American Civil War. This means that gun owners must become far more personally involved. Gun owners have to really grow fangs and learn to snarl in a societal and political sense. Wake up! You are the gun lobby these insidious liars and manipulators complain about! Remind them of that in every lawful way that you can.
Do you want to remain completely anonymous, but still help? A blank postal money order sent to GOA, SAF or JPFO works just fine, thanks.
We have to learn how to warn these gun prohibitionists off with unrelenting determination. When we gain a political victory or legal victory like the Heller or McDonald cases, we must be willing to dig into our own pockets and financially support those who truly won those victories, so that they may drive forward and win another, and another, with relentless momentum.
Political activism doesnt need to cost much at all, especially in this day and age of email and unlimited phone calling plans. If you cant afford to donate money to a Second Amendment organization, write the letters, send the emails, and make the phone calls in support of our gun rights. Talk to your gun owner friends and neighbors. Dont let them remain Fudds or Quackers!
Or, when you hear They aint gonna get my guns!, ask that person how he or she is going to stop them. Dont let this kind of chest puffing go unquestioned. Ask the arm chair warrior what he or she is doing now, today, to PREVENT that horror. If the question makes them uncomfortable it should! It wont be Chuck Norris, Sly Stallone or Arnold coming through with minor flesh wounds, friends. A Second American Civil War will not be played out on a Hollywood set. You wont be able to get up and leave the theater.
We need to prevent that war before it happens. How can we best do so? By preserving our right to keep and bear arms. Contribute to JPFO today and help us to protect that right. So called gun control must be completely destroyed. We must restore the pre-1934 state of affairs to America. Join JPFO today.
Frequent JPFO contributor and strategist, Kirby Ferris collaborated intensively with Aaron Zelman over the last two years. Ferris is now the Public Affairs Director of JPFO.
- Continuing escalation in prices for energy and food. This will reach a breaking point in the next year.
- Riots breaking out in major cities perhaps as early as this summer.
- Political gridlock relative to the budget and other fiscal matters.
- States edging close to bankruptcy.
- Continued slow motion collapse of the dollar and decrease in average American's purchasing power.
- A disruption in energy supplies causing panic and hording.
- Accelerating slowdown in the economy and simultaneous inflation.
- At some point the economic breaking point is reached and there is a transition to social disruption - led almost certainly by the forces of the left - unions, minorities, etc.
- A reaction by a relatively small group of patriots which will be brutally put down by police and military forces.
- Imposition of elements of martial law in various localities.
- Passage of emergency measures at the local,state and federal level.
- Shortages causing military-controlled rationing.
- Complete collapse of the dollar.
- Increasing repression - wide scale arrests and detentions.
- Confiscation of weapons under dire threat.
- A police state takes shape.
- The end of the American republic.
>>The problem with this type of thinking is that despite a lot of blustery talk, who would know who to shoot?<<
Remembering that military forces fight with a ratio of 10 to 1, ten men are required to support every man on the front lines. So, mess with the supply lines, the communication towers and centers, electricity, supply trucks, tires, roads, etc.
Start from the top down, JimRed.
IMO, it should be common knowledge where the city, state and federal officials, the local, state and federal law enforcement officers live in your city or county, every single one of them! Do you know where your elected officials live?
It is not difficult to make someone live in fear for their lives as many of you already know. Making our elected local, county, state or federal officials acutely aware of that feeling is not a popular idea amongst the posters on this website but having the taste of acute fear in your mouth is not one quickly forgotten. Dont go after them in their protected offices when their families are as vulnerable as our families are.
If our LEOs or military troops under the orders of our elected local, county, state or federal officials ever administer violent treatment to US citizens then it should be returned in equal force to their superiors families.
I promise you that a single bullet through the kitchen window of the Mayors house will make for an excited dinner conversation. The Mayor will then understand exactly what he did when he ordered violence against his townspeople.
The Chief of Polices wife should be entitled to explain to her husband what a wonderful job hes doing if her home were to receive a copper jacketed message through her front door or her bedroom window.
There is no need to go after the street level officers, their bosses are the ones who issue the orders and they should be the ones whose homes receive the 1200+ fps messages.
I bet most of us could walk through town right now and with a high degree of accuracy pick out the ones who will be doing looting and killing.
But when the SHTF they will make themselves known in no uncertain terms. Especially when things first start to break loose.
They will be the ones looting the local stores and the houses on the next block, driving into our neighborhoods in caravans of packed cars waving their stolen weapons. They will be the ones dragging our neighbors out of their houses and beating them senseless.
When they come down our driveways or up to our homes we will know who they are and why they are there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg9ysz_Hgb8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp3eJJiVwhg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfmohVRZ-U0
A second Civil War won’t be triggered by incrementalist actions favored by liberals. Things would have to degenerate quickly and utterly for this to happen. The only thing I think that could actually cause real Americans is life-threatening reactions by ‘users’ and no-goods being deprived of their free lunches. Basically, full scale country-wide riots, vandalizing, looting, murder and havoc in reaction to loss of their free-rides caused by a total economic collapse.
The targets are "Anyone who tries to take your stuff. Some will have badges and uniforms; some will not.".
-- General James N. Mattis, USMC
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me Liberty, or give me death!
HA-ha!
You can’t seriously be suggesting that anyone take pot shots at the mayors wife. Really?
No, not at her. Aim at her front door, the place her husband has always said is safe from the little people. Show her that her home is just as vulnerable to attack by outsiders as our homes are.
Agree, the economy is going to get us started. Even now, the Feds must double the taxes on the middle class to balance the budget - cannot happen without total revolt, resort to barter, and permanent strikes by non-union, disgusted and dropping-out Galtists.
The fight looks like it will be between the hard working people who know what is being down to them versus the government and all the people supporting them. But on the side there seems to be a lot of nations outside the United States looking to take advantage of our crisis. So expect them to not sit back while we fight.
I meant done not down.
How many patriots can fit in Texas. Will we need more land? Maybe we could have the entire West excluding the Left Coast.
I don't have any belief in a God or Gods (just or otherwise), and I certainly don't believe in Gaia! Tornadoes, floods, and other natural disasters are just that...natural. There is not, and never has been, any conscious thought behind them. The universe and its many challenges are simply obstacles to be overcome. If we do, we prosper. If we don't, we die. It's really as simple as that.
I think some famous old dude once said, “You won’t need the second amendment until they try to take it away from you.”
when you talk of 4th generation welfare life styles you are missing a huge part of the proplem, that’s government workers whoi by and large are overpaid. They are on government workfare.
The tipping point will come when God says its here.
I think it starts with union thugs attacking TEA Party demostrations at the behest of the democrat party.
Because if we really wanted to stop what is going on and I mean right now. All we need is for PAlin or Bachmann to say come to DC and let’s shut down the city, all city’s for that matter.
>>Please undersand, I am not being provocative. I have a hard time seeing how we can succeed without it ending up being worse.
I still think we have time within the system. At least until 2012.<<
Who is creating the situation we now have? What you and I would term as “the establishment”, right? Then we need to demolish the “the establishment” before they succeed in obtaining their NWO and demolish our American way of life.
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