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Atheists expelled from Creation "Museum"
Examiner.com ^ | Aug 9th, 2009 | Michael Rosch

Posted on 08/09/2009 6:29:20 AM PDT by GL of Sector 2814

...according to Myers and at least one of my other sources that attended, aside from joking to each other about the ridiculous nonsense in the “museum”, no one misbehaved. But that didn’t seem to stop “museum” officials from harassing individuals and eventually kicking a few people out of the “museum” for imaginary infractions.

Essentially, it seems the “museum” feels that merely disagreeing with its “science” and mocking it to one’s friends is grounds for having visitors removed from the property. This is absurd. Could you imagine if the American Museum of Natural History ejected visitors for being creationists? Or if the Museum of Modern Art ejected visitors for critiquing the art or mocking Jackson Pollack’s work quietly with their friends? It would never happen. That’s because REAL museums are tools for education and don’t try to control how its visitors think.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: creationism; cretinism; dailydoseofbs; evolution; humor; keepowt; museum; pseudoscience
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To: GL of Sector 2814

When the government run education system in this nation teaches creationism to the exclusion of everything else, you get back to me on this.

Until then, I think people should have a right to discuss the matter with their students in a government run institution, in a public setting.

The creation museum is a privately funded institution. It doesn’t even have to allow atheists in.


61 posted on 08/09/2009 9:28:33 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Our Founding Fathers were the first birthers: See Article II, Section I of the U.S. Constitution.)
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To: bert

> Is it a museum? Seems like a propaganda assemblage to me

Yes, of course.

And museums that promote theories like “punctuated equilibrium” and “hopeful monsters” and things like dinosaurs turning into birds and shrews turning into bats, and outright hoaxes like “ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny”, “pildown man”, “dino bird”, and “Lucy” are not propaganda assemblages.

It’s all in the eye of the beholder, my FRiend.


62 posted on 08/09/2009 9:31:44 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Richard Kimball
If you don't get the larger principle here, I don't think anyone can explain it to you.

Some things are stupid enough to DESERVE mocking?

63 posted on 08/09/2009 9:36:49 AM PDT by humblegunner (My Kung Fu is ten times power!)
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To: Richard Kimball
Over 200 people showed up en masse, many with the specific purpose of causing problems. Try that at the Museum of Modern Art and see how long you get to hang around.

Something very much like that happened at the Denver Museum of Nature and Science. No one got thrown out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D8AeiAamjY

64 posted on 08/09/2009 9:38:42 AM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's "magic" is another man's engineering. "Supernatural" is a null word. -- R A Heinlein)
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To: Paleo Conservative
My brother and I toured the Temple Square in Salt Lake City in 1999. A couple of German female Mormons spotted us and showed us some of the more prominent sites. My only complaint was that they were quite pushy about evangelising us and wanted to get us to fill out forms with home addresses and phone numbers.

My tour guides were a couple of young girls, one American and one Brazilian. They were very nice, although there was a bit of a whispered "Join us...join us!" mentality to them. I do recall them wanting our addresses and phone numbers, now that you mention it (they didn't get them).

65 posted on 08/09/2009 9:44:16 AM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's "magic" is another man's engineering. "Supernatural" is a null word. -- R A Heinlein)
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To: Paleo Conservative

I also recall protesters marching just outside Temple Square, telling people not to go in and ranting about the evils of the Mormon Church. I told one of them that he was being quite rude, and he tried get in a debate with me about the incompatibility of Mormonism and the Bible. When I told him that he was wasting his time because I’m an atheist and don’t believe in either one he got a very nonplussed expression on his face and went back to shouting at the crowds.


66 posted on 08/09/2009 9:53:07 AM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's "magic" is another man's engineering. "Supernatural" is a null word. -- R A Heinlein)
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To: humblegunner

Well, you have a point there - I never swim with sharks or crocs. But - no, that wasn’t the WHO I had in mind!


67 posted on 08/09/2009 10:00:01 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: LaineyDee

Sounds good.


68 posted on 08/09/2009 10:00:38 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Westbrook

So, it is a museum promoting a myth with made up exhibits


69 posted on 08/09/2009 10:03:23 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . fasl el-khitab)
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To: bert

It would be accurate to call it a museum of Biblical mythology and pseudoscience.


70 posted on 08/09/2009 10:14:23 AM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's "magic" is another man's engineering. "Supernatural" is a null word. -- R A Heinlein)
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To: jla
What other side? Are you referring to creation of the universe without God?

That aside from the Bible stating that God made animals and then people, all physical evidence shows that people and dinosaurs did not occupy the earth at the same time.

71 posted on 08/09/2009 10:49:35 AM PDT by Dianna (Obama Barbie: Governing is hard.)
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To: LouAvul
They're just not very good people and of necessity have chosen to reject God so as not to impede their sinful choices.

That is quite insulting to a fellow FReeper. It's attitudes like this that fracture the conservative movement. It's hard fighting the liberal left when you're being attacked by your own side. I simply don't want to be associated with sick kind of people who think this way, but I persevere for the betterment of our country.

Anyway, seeing the immorality committed by Christians all the time, and looking at my pretty much straight-laced life without a deity, makes me call into question the validity of such statements.

72 posted on 08/09/2009 11:09:17 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Jacquerie
It is the atheist, not the Christian who attempts to impose his beliefs on others.

Think of it this way: In modern times the most you're getting is some lawsuits from some activists over government involvement in religion. At least we're not torturing and killing unbelievers on a mass scale in the name of a religion.

73 posted on 08/09/2009 11:12:36 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: alchemist54
Hey clown,

Either come up with recent history to support your bias or quit showing your a$$.

74 posted on 08/09/2009 11:14:06 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Obama - The end of Truth)
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To: Jacquerie

Manners...let’s keep things civil.


75 posted on 08/09/2009 11:16:43 AM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's "magic" is another man's engineering. "Supernatural" is a null word. -- R A Heinlein)
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To: org.whodat
Christianity does not force its beliefs on others.
76 posted on 08/09/2009 11:17:31 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Obama - The end of Truth)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

I never initiate, but will respond in kind.


77 posted on 08/09/2009 11:18:30 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Obama - The end of Truth)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

Some children believe in Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy to a ripe old age of 10. Others believe God made the world a few thousand years ago, in 7 24-hours days.

Some persist in these beliefs into adulthood.


78 posted on 08/09/2009 11:23:20 AM PDT by Tax Government
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To: Jacquerie
I think you escalated things a bit; while he called your remarks asinine, you called him a clown. The former is not a personal attack; the latter is.

That having been said, let's all of us try reign it in a bit, m'kay? Just because some of us are godless heathens and the others are self-righteous moralists doesn't mean we all can't get along...

79 posted on 08/09/2009 11:28:01 AM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's "magic" is another man's engineering. "Supernatural" is a null word. -- R A Heinlein)
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To: Tax Government

We all really know the world was created about 6 a.m, when I got up. Most of you didn’t exist until a few minutes ago, however.


80 posted on 08/09/2009 11:29:44 AM PDT by Tax Government
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