Posted on 08/09/2009 6:29:20 AM PDT by GL of Sector 2814
...according to Myers and at least one of my other sources that attended, aside from joking to each other about the ridiculous nonsense in the museum, no one misbehaved. But that didnt seem to stop museum officials from harassing individuals and eventually kicking a few people out of the museum for imaginary infractions.
Essentially, it seems the museum feels that merely disagreeing with its science and mocking it to ones friends is grounds for having visitors removed from the property. This is absurd. Could you imagine if the American Museum of Natural History ejected visitors for being creationists? Or if the Museum of Modern Art ejected visitors for critiquing the art or mocking Jackson Pollacks work quietly with their friends? It would never happen. Thats because REAL museums are tools for education and dont try to control how its visitors think.
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When the government run education system in this nation teaches creationism to the exclusion of everything else, you get back to me on this.
Until then, I think people should have a right to discuss the matter with their students in a government run institution, in a public setting.
The creation museum is a privately funded institution. It doesn’t even have to allow atheists in.
> Is it a museum? Seems like a propaganda assemblage to me
Yes, of course.
And museums that promote theories like “punctuated equilibrium” and “hopeful monsters” and things like dinosaurs turning into birds and shrews turning into bats, and outright hoaxes like “ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny”, “pildown man”, “dino bird”, and “Lucy” are not propaganda assemblages.
It’s all in the eye of the beholder, my FRiend.
Some things are stupid enough to DESERVE mocking?
Something very much like that happened at the Denver Museum of Nature and Science. No one got thrown out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D8AeiAamjY
My tour guides were a couple of young girls, one American and one Brazilian. They were very nice, although there was a bit of a whispered "Join us...join us!" mentality to them. I do recall them wanting our addresses and phone numbers, now that you mention it (they didn't get them).
I also recall protesters marching just outside Temple Square, telling people not to go in and ranting about the evils of the Mormon Church. I told one of them that he was being quite rude, and he tried get in a debate with me about the incompatibility of Mormonism and the Bible. When I told him that he was wasting his time because I’m an atheist and don’t believe in either one he got a very nonplussed expression on his face and went back to shouting at the crowds.
Well, you have a point there - I never swim with sharks or crocs. But - no, that wasn’t the WHO I had in mind!
Sounds good.
So, it is a museum promoting a myth with made up exhibits
It would be accurate to call it a museum of Biblical mythology and pseudoscience.
That aside from the Bible stating that God made animals and then people, all physical evidence shows that people and dinosaurs did not occupy the earth at the same time.
That is quite insulting to a fellow FReeper. It's attitudes like this that fracture the conservative movement. It's hard fighting the liberal left when you're being attacked by your own side. I simply don't want to be associated with sick kind of people who think this way, but I persevere for the betterment of our country.
Anyway, seeing the immorality committed by Christians all the time, and looking at my pretty much straight-laced life without a deity, makes me call into question the validity of such statements.
Think of it this way: In modern times the most you're getting is some lawsuits from some activists over government involvement in religion. At least we're not torturing and killing unbelievers on a mass scale in the name of a religion.
Either come up with recent history to support your bias or quit showing your a$$.
Manners...let’s keep things civil.
I never initiate, but will respond in kind.
Some children believe in Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy to a ripe old age of 10. Others believe God made the world a few thousand years ago, in 7 24-hours days.
Some persist in these beliefs into adulthood.
That having been said, let's all of us try reign it in a bit, m'kay? Just because some of us are godless heathens and the others are self-righteous moralists doesn't mean we all can't get along...
We all really know the world was created about 6 a.m, when I got up. Most of you didn’t exist until a few minutes ago, however.
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