Posted on 07/17/2009 5:48:28 AM PDT by kellynla
OK, I confess, the title is a bit misleading.
It should read Obama And His Lack Of A Birth Certificate Is About To Make History.
Yesterday, World Net Daily broke the story of Army Major Stefan Cook, who argued that he should not have to deploy to Afghanistan because President Obama has not proven that he is a natural-born citizen, therefore he is unable to serve as Commander-In-Chief.
This is something that will receive little, if any, coverage from the mainstream media.
However, the fact that the U.S. Army revoked the orders of a soldier about to be sent overseas based wholly upon such a claim is unprecedented.
This controversy over Obamas failure to produce a valid birth certificate has been an ongoing saga.
And all calls for him to do so have either been belittled or ignored by the White House. Which may lead some folks to suspect that the reason he doesnt simply produce the blasted thing and put this story to rest once and for all is because he doesnt have one!
About the only attention we have seen regarding this issue was the presentation of a Certificate Of Live Birth supposedly issued by the State of Hawaii.
This proves less than nothing, as first, to look at it you would think that a 12-year old made it on their home computer, and secondly is the fact that a child does not have to be born in Hawaii in order for the state to issue such a document to the childs parents.
Even if this document is legitimate, it is a far cry from an actual birth certificate, and it surely is not proof of where Obama was actually born.
However , there are literally thousands of articles and opinions floating around about Obamas birth certificate, or lack therof, and I dont want to bore you with re-visiting the same stories.
Rather, I would like to expound on my claim that Obamas lack of a birth certificate will make history. Consider the following:
If indeed it is proven that Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen, and therefore is unable to serve as President, he will not be remembered as Americas first black President, rather history will remember him as the man who was the cause of the biggest Constitutional crisis this country has ever seen!
The question will be raised of what will happen to other troops deployed by Obama, and the troops already serving under orders from an ineligible commander in chief.
Every piece of legislation that Obama has signed since taking office would now be considered under law to be null and void.
Imagine what this would mean to the stock market, financial institutions, the auto industry, as well as every other facet of the American economy.
Not to mention, the people who already accuse the presidents critics of being racists will no doubt try to use this as their proof and stoke racial tensions to the point of riot.
Every appointment he has made, regardless if it was an appointment as a Czar, or a Cabinet-level position, would have to be overturned, and it would become the duty of the Vice-President to re-fill those positions.
Which leads to perhaps the most intriguing scenario of all.
The Constitution states that if the President is unable to serve, the Vice-President shall assume the duties of the office.
However, if the man who chose you to be his running mate was found to have been elected to the office in violation of Constitutional law, where does that leave you Mr. Biden?
After all, we (well, some of you poor misguided individuals) voted for the two of you as a team running on the same ticket.
So if it is found that the man who picked you to be his running mate did so in direct violation of federal law, doesnt it follow that you were also elected to the Vice-Presidency under false pretenses?
Barack Obama. CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN!
When the U.S. military accepts the claim of a soldier that the man posing as Commander-In-Chief has failed to produce his eligibility to hold that title, we may be on the verge of seeing change beyond belief.
“And there were reports that the Army pressured a company to fire Mr. Cook.”
Pentagon orders soldier fired for challenging prez
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2293407/posts
The press will try to downplay it and get it dismissed as irrelevant in the court of public opinion. That won't stop it from turning into a quagmire in the courts that will dog him for the rest of his term.
Isn’t their a case where a judge is going to hear this fiasco and settle it once and for all?
The author brings up a good point, though. If the winning party ‘won’ by fraud - then Mr. Biden is part to that fraud. How can Mr. Biden be legitmate, when his running mate, the man who chose him, committed fraud.
If I commit fraud, and through my act of illegal actions give you a job, car or cash - you do not get to keep the ill-gotten gains.
Therefore, I would think, that because the Democratic ticket was fraudlent, McCain and Palin would assume the presidency as they had the next greatest amount of votes.
Pathetic that so many ‘officials’ neglected their Constitutional duty to verify Obama’s citizenship before the election. This is downright treasonous.
Why? Biden was elected just as fraudulently as Obama. Seems to me, McCain was the only legitimate candidate.
Wrong! That would leave Joe Biden in charge. Old Joe could then appoint a VP who would be confirmed by the Senate. Nothing else changes, except the country could be thrown into a 3rd World turmoil.
I don't either, and that's where the author fails in his reasoning. Some have suggested that the entire election would be negated, and perhaps McCain/Palin would assume office. That's wishful thinking. Obama's ineligibility would mean that Biden succeeds him based on Constitutional succession. I simply can't see the courts ruling otherwise.
As for his time in office, and the laws passed, that's where the turmoil will develop. And you can be assured the libs will fight to have them retained, tooth and nail.
Only if the Supreme Court held that the election was void because of Obama's ineligibility. In that case, Biden would not be legally the VP. In the meantime Pelosi would take over while the Senate and House would have to go over the election results and figure out how to certify a winner. McCain's and Palin's electors should stand, but who knows how the Dems will do with the others.
Riots that will make Watts, Detroit, and the Rodney King LA riot look tiny by comparison. And that is why nobody will do anything. They are cowed by the prospect of anarchy on a scale never before seen in this country...and if some court was to find Obama ineligible, make no mistake, it WOULD happen. The radical liberals would herd the sheeple to make sure of it.
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Incorrect. Under no alternative does Sarah Palin become Vice-President. Joe Biden is legitimately the Vice-President, having been properly elected to that position by the Electoral College.
The only question remaining would be whether the Presidential election would have to be re-adjudicated (in which case, McCain becomes the only eligible option and must be elected by the House) or whether the position is vacant, in which case Biden succeeds the vacancy. There is no law or precedent to declare either way, and the most politically expedient solution therefore would be for Biden to become President.
thanks once again to Mike Judge and the Office Space crew for coining the word “assclown”
Nope. The electoral college holds two separate and independent elections for POTUS and VPOTUS and arenot bound to elect by ticket. Theoretically, the Electoral College could have given us Obama/Palin or McCain/Biden. Biden is the legitimately elected VPOTUS, and unlike his running mate, is Constitutionally eligible for the office.
What's the downside? < /sarc >
Question for the legal eagles. Just how would we go about addressing that?
This "lack of standing" thing seems to be the brick wall for all these challenges. Exactly who or what defines that? Is there a way to change it? Would one go to court or Congress to effect such a change?
It isn't in the Constitution. Should it be? How about the state constitutions?
Has there ever been a significant federal case regarding the issue?
The electoral college holds two separate and independent elections for POTUS and VPOTUS
I don't have my copy of the U.S. Constitution with me, but the Congress did certify the Electors. That would mean that the election is over and in the books in my view.
BUT...Running for an office to which you are constitutionally ineligible would quite likely be seen by most citizens as fraud. Then impeachment for that high crime would seem to be the recourse.
Personally, I “think” the Speaker (God help us) would be POTUS until another election had been held.
But who knows...
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