You mean kind of like this?
Posted on 05/12/2009 7:26:20 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
Hadrosaur Soft Tissues Another Blow to Long-Ages Myth
by Brian Thomas, M.S.*
Recently-discovered dinosaur soft tissues, and even blood cells, represent some of the biggest hurdles for long-age evolutionary belief. Soft tissue was found in the femur of a large Tyrannosaurus rex about a decade ago, and more was discovered in another T. rex a few years later. And recently, soft tissues with proteins were found in a hadrosaur from Montana...
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I appreciate your humor. But it points to a problem in the popular imagination that scientists rarely try to correct. You said, "the true, factual, indisputable theory (in the scientific sense)". In science, theories are not facts. Theories are theories. Scientists do gather facts in an attempt to support a particular theory. But those facts do not prove the theory. They only support the theory to varying degrees.
In other words, theories are not dogmas. A theory can be replaced if a better theory comes a long. But dogmas can never be replaced because dogmas are always true, at least for those who believe they are true.
If scientists did a better job of explaining what their theories represent, we would have better science. But scientists do a lousy job of explaining the proper role of theory. They treat it like dogma, and then let the general public view it the same way. This causes a great deal of misunderstand among all parties to the arguments about evolution.
We have presently a thread on FR where we have people arguing if UFO’s are from God or the Devil.
We have Geocentric creationist posters here on FR.
Liking science fiction hardly compares to the sheer crank nuttery of that.
Awesome! Love this stuff.
How creative is our God. How trustworthy His Word. How useful this tool called “science.”
If they keep digging they may eventually find a dinosaur with a pet collar and the tag with the owner’s name. Now that will really prove things. I’m still baffled by the clam shells found in the Alps. I wonder if Noah might have thrown them over board because they weren’t Kosher?
LOL. :-)
The article’s claim is a logical extension of fact, but your statement is not. It needn’t be the oldest rock for the assertion to be true.
Exactly the reason I choose not to engage you Evo-morons in debate anymore.
I’m right there with you... but the last time I tried to put forth that fact I was blasted by Evo’s who claimed theory meant something completely different in science and that I was an idiot for not understanding it. That’s the reason I said, “in the scientific sense”.
It depends on what the meaning of “Is” is, you see.
I can deal with someone who presents their ideas as ideas and their faith as such. But it’s hard to argue with clones.
You mean kind of like this?
Your sense of humor is dry enough I knew you would...
You’ve all taught me to weigh my every word carefully, so I try to make them count.
Amen!
Can you point me to a thread? I've often heard you evo's criticize people for believing that the sun goes around the Earth, but I've never actually seen anyone make the claim. All I ever see are you folks asserting that other folks claim it to be so.
Link?
If it isn't the oldest rock, how does knowing how old it is tell you how old all the other rock is?
“Liking science fiction hardly compares to the sheer crank nuttery of that.”
Yeah, but picking on those who do certainly does get ‘em riled...
That’s what I call fun!
To a certain extent, if the animal is found not to be quite so old, then it becomes difficult to make the case that the rocks are so very old.
Rocks and sediment layers are not dated by the fossilized specimens found within them.
Name one, lol.
And, while you're at it, please fix the center of the universe in it's proper position, as you see it. It's not Earth, you're clearly quite convinced, so there must be some sort of logical process going on, in order to have acquired such certainty on the matter.
Predictably Schweitzer, the discover of the blood proteins, etc. was accused of being sloppy about handling the samples. On the second dinosaur she went to extraordinary lengths to guard the integrity of the samples taken.
So now from Smithsonian Magagzine:
“Further discoveries in the past year have shown that the discovery of soft tissue in B. rex wasn’t just a fluke. Schweitzer and Wittmeyer have now found probable blood vessels, bone-building cells and connective tissue in another T. rex, in a theropod from Argentina and in a 300,000-year-old woolly mammoth fossil. Schweitzer’s work is “showing us we really don’t understand decay,” Holtz says. “There’s a lot of really basic stuff in nature that people just make assumptions about.”
Gotta love that last line!
“believing that the sun goes around the Earth,’
Oh... that’s what that means. Maybe the problem is the Evo’s hang out with the crazies. I ain’t never heard o’ such!
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