Posted on 02/05/2009 7:52:01 PM PST by MindBender26
Obama Born In The U.S. ? New Facts Say; “Probably Not!”
Let me be the first to admit that I have been a constant debunker of the “Obama Born Overseas” stories. How could it be possible? How could the DNC, Hillary, Edwards, the RNC, McCain, Romney, AP, BBC, ABC, FNC, etc, (and every 100th listing in the DC phone book) not have checked this out to its last level of possibility?
Well, it appears that they didn’t! Everyone assumed “the other guy did it.”
Forget for the moment all the clues left by the high-priced Obama and DNC legal teams. They are huge.
Obama and the DNC always argue “standing.” They could eliminate every legal challenge in 5 minutes by simply producing a certified copy of the original long-form birth certificate. Throw in the testimony of the Hawaii Registrar of Documents, a few retired FBI chief document examiners, and the doctor who delivered him for good measure.
If they did that in two or three courts of record, in light of the obvious media coverage it would receive, every other court nationwide would accept the precedence and the cases would all be over.
But they don’t. They keep telling the courts, “please don’t hear this case.” No proof of any kind. Just the legalese argument that the plaintiffs have no standing before that court.
That’s so overreaching, it’s like buying a refinery to get a 3000 mile oil change! And one day, some court is going to say…. “Show me the money, er,. ah, I mean, Show me the documents!”
But there is a second, and perhaps new point!
Where is that doctor who delivered him, or the midwife?
Stop and think. The delivery of a half Negro – half Caucasian baby was rare anyhere in 1961. Oriental babies were common in Hawaii of course, but a half Negro-half Caucasian baby with the funny name of Barrack Obama, in Hawaii? In 1961?
Even of you were a Republican, if you delivered a future President of the United States, wouldn’t you call some newspaper somewhere with your story. Or if you were the assistant obstetrician, or the anesthesiologist, or the scrub nurse?
What about the circulating nurse, or the pediatrician, one of a dozen nurses on the 24 hour-a-day shifts in the nursery, one of many nurses on the ward where Mrs. Obama would have stayed for three days, a records registrar, a technician of any kind, hell, even the janitor!
What about the clerks, ambulance drivers….. somebody ?!?!?!
Anybody ?!?!?!
Wouldn’t someone have been yelling their “credit” for this from the rooftops???? The date when he was born is (supposedly) known. Certainly all these (supposed) people would know where they were working then!
Where is somebody, anybody, who was there or even remembers the birth?
Sherlock Holmes once solved a case by noticing the dog that DID NOT bark.
Is this the same situation?
Was Andy J. ever in Hawai’i?
Welcome to FR! If I may give some advice intended to be of help, on FR, when you make a claim (at least in a controversial subject) it’s best to post a source for your claim as well (link, “actual” citation, etc).
For the record though, I tend to believe what you quoted was accurate; those in the medical field ARE quite paranoid about violating HIPAA, so the quote you gave sounds reasonable. A source would be nice though.
Ø was born?
No it is NOT!
What you cite is the CURRENT law ...
Now go look at the 1952 Immigration and Naturalization law AS IT STOOD IN 1961.
You will see it was different then.
When 0bama was born, the provisions in what is now para (g) required the US citizen parent to have lived FIVE years in the US after the age of fourteen, not TWO.
Since 0bama's mother was only 18 should could not comply.
Nonsense! He sprang fully armoured from the mind of Zeus!
Well, I thought he was always among us. As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end.
And a big "sarc" on the last point.
“Stop and think. The delivery of a half Negro – half Caucasian baby was rare anyhere in 1961. Oriental babies were common in Hawaii of course, but a half Negro-half Caucasian baby with the funny name of Barrack Obama, in Hawaii? In 1961?”
Having been born in Hawaii in 1969, I have to say it would not have been unusual at all.
Excellent, thank you!
I forgot to mention there is a place on the Long form Birth certicicate, that reads: “Hospital of birth or Street Address” All His momma needed to do was have someone else sign as a witness, and Barak would have gotten a COLB. Obama was not born in the US, but in Kenya, He is NOT a natural Born Citizen, at best he is a Naturalized president and we have an Usurper in office.
“In principio erat verbum.”
Just “verbum.”
That is one of his three names. But thanks for playing.
I'm no good at detective work.....
And I’m sure he’s waiting for the same thing—with fear and loathing.
Obama hasn't had to defend himself in a single lawsuit, because...
lawsuits don’t magically disappear.
...every lawsuit has been tossed out of court.
Now, if a court decides to accept one of these cases then, yes, Obama would have to put together a defense and this defense would cost money.
This has yet to happen.
While most Obama residences can be traced, the hospital where he was born is difficult to document. The desire of historians to pinpoint where Obama's life began has crashed head-on with the modern American propensity toward confidentiality. The federal Health Information Privacy Act of 1999 — a law passed to protect medical records from public scrutiny — prevents hospitals from confirming births, administrators contend.
"We don't have plans to do anything," said Kapiolani Medical Center spokeswoman, Claire Tong, when asked how the center plans to commemorate the soon-to-be 44th U.S. president, who, according to Obama's family and other sources, was born at that hospital on Aug. 4, 1961.
"We can't confirm or deny it — even though all the information out there says he was born at Kapiolani Hospital. And that's because of the HIPA law."
However, this appears to contradict earlier media reports:
On weekday mornings as a teenager, Barry Obama left his grandparents' apartment on the 10th floor of the 12-story high-rise at 1617 S. Beretania, a mile and a half above Waikiki Beach, and walked up Punahou Street in the shadows of capacious banyan trees and date palms. Before crossing the overpass above the H1 freeway, where traffic zoomed east to body-surfing beaches or west to the airport and Pearl Harbor, he passed Kapiolani Medical Center, walking below the hospital room where he was born on Aug. 4, 1961.
Barack Obama
Age: 42
Born: Aug. 4, 1961, Kapiolani Medical Center for Women and Children, Honolulu.
Who exactly were Maraniss' and Serafins' sources?
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