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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: dmw
Just to let you know, I have pushed the abuse button on you for posting that with my name on it.

I wouldn't expect anything less from you. Thanks for proving my point.

14,001 posted on 04/28/2007 8:10:06 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Action speaks louder than words but not nearly as often.)
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To: DCPatriot

“Nothing more and nothing less.”

Sorry, those were your words. Comparing the RR to the anti-war wackos is not a healthy comparison.


14,002 posted on 04/28/2007 8:10:17 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("You tell them I'm comin...and hell's comin with me"!)
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To: rbmillerjr
"So, unless you can refute that line of reasoning, it is no taunt or a name call. Fire away I await your positive contribution and apology."

I think she was referring to your unquoted use of profanity... Since it wasn't quoted or signed in your posting as originating from someone else, it appeared to be coming directly from you. :-(
14,003 posted on 04/28/2007 8:10:27 PM PDT by Skywarner (The U.S. Armed Forces... Producers of FREEDOM for over 200 years!!)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Hey, finally got one! :-)


14,004 posted on 04/28/2007 8:10:52 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: La Enchiladita; Lando Lincoln

Great posts, both of you. I hope that your reasoned, respectful, and heart-felt words will be read and have a positive effect on this thread.

And, Lando, you are so right; it is much, much more than another flame-war on an unimportant web site. FR was having a positive effect on politics and had become a valuable resource in the fight against the left. It is now well on its way to becoming a laughing-stock, and fulfilling the preconceptions of an uninformed and potentially hostile public.


14,005 posted on 04/28/2007 8:12:18 PM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
I love you too!

I've had that car in the shop all week, BTW.

14,006 posted on 04/28/2007 8:12:24 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: La Enchiladita
>>>>>You and others are missing, deliberately or otherwise, the point that GodBlessUSA is making.

Message received loud and clear. The WOT is the primary issue at hand for GodBlessUSA. If Rudy is the nominee, she will vote for him and we should too. Sorry. That isn't gonna happen.

>>>>>Because 9/11 is sacred to me, I don’t like seeing Rudy Giuliani trashed. According to some here, he actually did nothing right at that time... that is despicable, unnecessary commentary and I reject it.

This is a big part of the problem for many Republicans. Emotions are still running high for many people. problem, those emotions are adversely effecting the judgment of some. I grew up in NYC and watched the Twin Towers being built and even did some work for the IBEW at the WTC. I will never forget the events of 9-11, nor would I ever downplay the heinous nature of those events. However, more importantly, 9-11 was an historic event of enormous proportions. With short term and long term ramifications. The personal behavior and public actions of Mayor Giuliani on that fateful day and in the weeks that followed, was not out of line with what is expected from the Mayor of America's largest city.

But Rudy`s 9-11 behavior is not a reason for conservatives to throw away their principles and vote for a liberal to be the standard bearer of the GOP.

>>>>I don’t think I support “Swift-boating” Giuliani unless something truly awful emerges about him.

If you read the thread, you'll see that there are numerous problems that we conservatives have with Rudy. They cover a multitude of issues. From his support for big govt, gun control, abortion on demand as a constitutional right, PBA, gay rights and amnesty, global warming ---- along with a host of other issues. Its not just 1-2 03 3 issues that we object to Rudy on.

With Reagan, most conservatives were satisfied about 80% of the time. With Bush43, conservatives got about half of what we wanted from him. With Rudy we'd be lucky to get 20%!

Nope. Can't ever consider voting Rudy. Frankly, I don't trust any liberal. That includes Rudy.

14,007 posted on 04/28/2007 8:13:22 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: SuzyQue
FR was having a positive effect on politics and had become a valuable resource in the fight against the left. It is now well on its way to becoming a laughing-stock, and fulfilling the preconceptions of an uninformed and potentially hostile public.

I've seen few stinkier steaming piles than that on FR in seven years.

14,008 posted on 04/28/2007 8:13:36 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: DCPatriot; dukakis kerry the dream team
I’m going to vouch for this fellow, not that he needs me to. He’s a decent and respectful guy and I’ve enjoyed having back and forths with him.

He is very respectful when disagreeing. That’s what dissent is about.

14,009 posted on 04/28/2007 8:14:42 PM PDT by Luke21 (No Rudy. No way.)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Hubby just got back from a 3 day out of town trip...might not get to play too much....


14,010 posted on 04/28/2007 8:15:06 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

That’s OK...the break might be good.

Heck, you may even get some....SEWING done! KNITTING!

WHOO HOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!


14,011 posted on 04/28/2007 8:16:27 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (See HiJinx's tag line....then DO it!!!!)
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To: Reagan Man
correction: "Its not just 1-2 03 or 3 issues that we object to Rudy on.
14,012 posted on 04/28/2007 8:16:52 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: floriduh voter

Hi - I remember you. The pirate battle was a blast...


14,013 posted on 04/28/2007 8:17:11 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: EternalVigilance

No, Really! They were speaking admiringly of us at DU and everything ;’}


14,014 posted on 04/28/2007 8:17:32 PM PDT by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: Reagan Man

Okay, you have problems with Rudy you don’t have to support him. Neither do I. However, does “Swift-boating” a Republican ultimately serve conservatism and the preservation of this Nation...?

Who, of the conservative candidates, supports this?


14,015 posted on 04/28/2007 8:17:41 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Lamb of God, you take away the sins of the world. Have mercy on us, and grant us Your peace.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
14015 POST! Maybe...
14,016 posted on 04/28/2007 8:17:43 PM PDT by TrollBridge
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To: rockrr

*snort*


14,017 posted on 04/28/2007 8:18:24 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: EternalVigilance; SuzyQue

>>FR was having a positive effect on politics and had become a valuable resource in the fight against the left. It is now well on its way to becoming a laughing-stock, and fulfilling the preconceptions of an uninformed and potentially hostile public. <<

The voice of reason—and yet again you won’t listen.


14,018 posted on 04/28/2007 8:18:53 PM PDT by sissyjane (Fred!!)
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To: TrollBridge

Ahhh...missed it by one...


14,019 posted on 04/28/2007 8:19:13 PM PDT by TrollBridge
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To: rbmillerjr
Talking about dividing the Party as it relates to being here...the people dividing are the liberals or people supporting the liberal candidate. It seems pretty clear this is a conservative site, so the onus shouldn’t be on the conservatives. Now if it were some liberal site the opposite would be true.

Well, that seems reasonable enough.

Maybe we're not as far apart as it might have seemed.

But I do reserve the right to have a favorite not exactly in the race.

Reagan dead would be a better president than any Dim alive.

14,020 posted on 04/28/2007 8:19:17 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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