I want you to prostitute yourself just enough to ensure a GOP victory in 2008. ;^)
Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.
One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.
All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.
FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?
Do you really expect me to do that?
Agreed.
I have been here since 98 (actually 97 but I couldnt make my $200 computer work) I have had a enough fights with people in that time ...I have found the easiest and best way to handle somone who said something I didnt like is to find the off button or try another thread.
I want you to prostitute yourself just enough to ensure a GOP victory in 2008. ;^)
Well, if you are saying that Rudy supporters are Keyes detractors, I can't argue, not having paid attention to the Keyes threads. I'm unconvinced, but unable to argue the point.
Thank you very much. How do I save it?
What I meant was that so many years in here, you get to 'KNOW' people.
Knock wood...I never was on the receiving end of one of Howlin's 'dressing downs'. But whenever I read the beatings she was handing out...I was usually in agreement with her.
As I said before, she didn't suffer fools gladly.
Don't forget, this forum is not solely politics. Her presence on the forum was a big plus, IMO and will be missed.
What I meant was that so many years in here, you get to 'KNOW' people.
Knock wood...I never was on the receiving end of one of Howlin's 'dressing downs'. But whenever I read the beatings she was handing out...I was usually in agreement with her.
As I said before, she didn't suffer fools gladly.
Don't forget, this forum is not solely politics. Her presence on the forum was a big plus, IMO and will be missed.
I'm wondering if those who embrace the first two of your suppostions, but not the third, are still welcome here.
Which describes me, I'm not at all religious, although I am enough of a traditionalist to find within myself sympathy and support for most socially conservative issues. But I also find certain parallels between political correctness and puritanism. I don't like people like Jerry Falwell, for instance, though I think I share his view of Islam.
LOL!
I’ve never known Alan Keyes to “set up a website.” You’re being dishonest.
Did somebody set up a website in his name? Did somebody go to jail?
This is one more example of a long-time tactic of Keyes-bashers online. It’s okay for every organization under the sun, including the RNC and every RINO in the country, to raise money. But let Keyes do it, to keep his operations and his cause going, and hooboy! What garbage.
Check out what LG set ME up with!
Call them what you will. Position traps, queries, questions... Doesn’t matter to me. IMHO, they are nothing more than questions used to encourage the discussion. If the result is someone actually taking a position on something - which I already been challenged to do - then that’s a good thing. ;-)
“I’m wondering if those who embrace the first two of your suppostions, but not the third, are still welcome here.”
I think conservatives are welcomed here period. I can’t speak for RimRobinson, although I know he feels that you are either conservative or you’re not. If there are say 20 issues...and you agree with 17, that sounds pretty conservative to me.
“I’m not at all religious, although I am enough of a traditionalist to find within myself sympathy and support for most socially conservative issues.”
Interesting, you’re traditionalist enough to support most socially conservative issues. Sam, maybe you are a social conserivative and you are just deselecting yourself based on the leftist msm definition of social conservatism. I believe in evolution, though I haven’t ruled creation out. I’ve always been a Christian (and a poor sinner one at that) but there were times I didn’t attend a church (but always managed to find a bible to read, and always maintained my faith. We are all of different hues.
I’m a Christian conservative, and I’m not nuts about Falwell and Robertson either. The issue is whether you believe the media caricature of the Christian and social right.
We have to be able to tell our friends from our enemies. That means you reach a point of disagreement with someone, fine. You just withdraw and let it be. But with many Rudy rooters, that was difficult, if not next to impossible.
They were dominating this board and using the rhetorical tactics of liberals. If someone is conservative, I should at least be able to agree with them once in a while, or at least fine common ground.
If you don't know how to save it, you don't likely have a way to view it, so saving it as a favorite might be your best bet.
Correct, Keyes is not currently a candidate. However, my question was asked of EV - and he is admittedly a Keyes supporter (nothing wrong with that at all, BTW). ;-)
There is no purpose to them honestly. For someone that dislikes the division on the boards right now you have spent your time on only these types of threads furthering the division with non sequiturs and victimization. Just my opinion. As a suggestion, perhaps staying away from the division and partipating elsewhere might help with the victimization you feel.
Conservatives are coming together and will unite in having the conservatives stand up and be counted in the next election.
“I wonder if you have put your finger on the real crux of this thing. Is that what is going on here, is support for Giuliani being used as a lever to rid FR of those who aren’t social conservatives? To make this a primarily “social conservative” site? To make a declaration that it isn’t conservatism if it isn’t social conservatism?”
Not used as a lever, JR has decided to unite FR in an effort to defeat Giuliani, that naturally forced to the surface many of the anti-social conservative bunch, many of whom stormed out when their agendas were thwarted, and their motives exposed.
It is largely a reassertion of conservatism, and a statement that it is time to get involved in the Primary race.
....Or try another forum like WA. How do you like it over there since you joined six days ago?
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