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Katrina Live Thread XII
Various ^ | 31 August 2005 | Various

Posted on 08/31/2005 4:00:15 PM PDT by NautiNurse

President Bush: "We are dealing with one of the worst national disasters in our nation's history." Push has appropriated vast federal resources to assist with the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

78,000 people are currently in shelters. New Orleans evacuation continues. 10,000 additional National Guard troops have been called to service.

Hospitals are running low on supplies, and public health concerns include water borne disease, poor sanitation, food and drinking water contamination and shortages, mosquitoes, carbon monixide poisoning from electricity generators, lack of childcare, and the special needs of the elderly.

Links to various news, local and state government websites:

WLOX TV Biloxi, Gulfport, Pascagula has link to locate family and friends (very slow load)

2theAdvocate - Baton Rouge Includes Slidell, St. John Parish, St. Bernard Parish updates, and other locations.

NOLA.com

Inside Houma Today includes shelter and volunteer updates

WLBT.com Jackson MS

WALA Channel 4 Mobile, AL Includes links to distribution centers, Emergency Ops, etc.

Sun-Herald Gulfport MS Includes link to town by town reports

Gulfport News via Topix.net

WAFB Baton Rouge

Mobile Register via al.com

Mississippi updates via Jackson Ledger

Lafayette LA Daily Advertiser

Pensacola News Journal

St Bernard Local Government
Alabama Homeland Security Volunteers can sign up online
Alabama DOT
Alabama.gov
Louisiana Homeland Security
Louisiana State Police road closure info
State of Mississippi Website has traffic alerts, emergency contact numbers

Streaming Video:

WWL-TV: http://www.khou.com/perl/common/video/wmPlayer.pl?title=beloint_khou&props=livenoad

WDSU-TV: http://mfile.akamai.com/12912/live/reflector:38843.asx"

WPMI-TV: http://www.wpmi.com/mediacenter/default.aspx?videoId=113739

WKRG-TV: mms://wmbcast.mgeneral.speedera.net/wmbcast.mgeneral/wmbcast_mgeneral_aug262005_1435_95518

WTOK-TV (follow the link on the home page): http://www.wtok.com/

WJTV-TV: mms://wmbcast.mgeneral.speedera.net/wmbcast.mgeneral/wmbcast_mgeneral_aug262005_1435_95563

Gulf Coast Storm Network (radio): http://www.stormalert.net/main.html#


Related FR Threads:

FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread

Discussion Thread - Hurricane Katrina - What Went Wrong?!?

Post Hurricane Katrina IMAGES Here

Looting Begins In New Orleans

Martial Law Declared in New Orleans


Due to the number of requests to assist, the following list of some charities is provided.
This is not intended as an endorsement for any of the charities.

www.redcross.org or 1-800 HELP NOW - note: website is slow
Salvation Army - 1-800-SAL-ARMY or Salvation Army currently looking for in-state volunteers - (888)363-2769
Operation Blessing: (800) 436-6348.
America's Second Harvest: (800) 344-8070.
Catholic Charities USA: (800) 919-9338, or www.catholiccharitiesusa.org.
Christian Reformed World Relief Committee: (800) 848-5818.
Church World Service: (800) 297-1516 or online at www.churchworldservice. org.
Lutheran Disaster Response: (800) 638-3522.
Nazarene Disaster Response: (888) 256-5886.
Presbyterian Disaster Assistance: (800) 872-3283.
Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is accepting donations at its 3,800 stores and Web site, www.walmart.com.

Previous Threads:

Katrina Live Thread, Part XI
Katrina Live Thread, Part X
Katrina Live Thread, Part IX
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VI
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part V
Hurricane Katrina, Live Thread, Part IV
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part III
Katrina Live Thread, Part II
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part I
Tropical Storm 12


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Louisiana; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: hurricane; katrina; tropical
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To: Mad Dawgg
"Sorry I just don't believe that one."

OK. Let's assume nobody told anybody anything. Put yourself on I-10 in sight of one of the most visually prominent man-made structures in the world. A place with buses lining up next to it loading up people and taking them away. What possible direction would you need from a government official to direct you toward that big round, domed life saver? Would you head in that direction, or would you just sit right down on the interstate and demand somebody tell you what to do? If you chose the later (and I'll assume you wouldn't), then perhaps you just might be beyond help.

841 posted on 08/31/2005 7:14:19 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: PhiKapMom
The 36 hour time appears to based on the inch an hour drain rate and 36" above sea level. It doesn't work that way! The flow rate goes down with the square root of the pressure head. It will take more like 7 days.

Also, I sure hope they have the the flow from the river stopped into LP.
842 posted on 08/31/2005 7:14:19 PM PDT by John Jamieson (Hybrids are a highway around CAFE, that's all they're good for.)
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To: Cboldt

> After that, plug the levees, and fix the pumps. Fire 'em up and voila, 2 weeks later the city is dry.

Sorry, but I heard the Army Corp of Engineers guy on the news this evening. He said, once the levees are repaired (he estimated 4 days for that job), he said it would take 3 to 6 months to drain the city!

Nothing "voila" about it.


843 posted on 08/31/2005 7:14:27 PM PDT by XEHRpa
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I posted one from the Army on this thread as well so I will send both.


844 posted on 08/31/2005 7:14:28 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Allen in 2008)
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To: GOPrincess
those people

Her constituents she's talking about here, it should be pointed out.

845 posted on 08/31/2005 7:14:31 PM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

There have been airdrops of food and water. The choppers are shuttling drops in, then picking up people off of rooftops on the way out. The C5s are shuttling supplies to open runways near LA, MS, Al & FL, where trucks and helos pick them up. As for looting, remember the first priority is saving peoples lives. There are thousands of people looking to be saved from the lake that was New Orleans. The authorities have the power in such an emergency to take what they need if necessary to provide a life saving function. One emergency center that lost most of its computer & communications equipment commandeered some replacement units at a local Office Depot. As long as they notify the owner what was taken and promise to pay for it later that is entirely legal. I doubt Office Depot will send them a bill.


846 posted on 08/31/2005 7:14:54 PM PDT by gpapa (Boost FR Traffic! Make FR your home page!)
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To: cgk

thank you so much for this information...my sister emailed me just today saying how frustrated my niece was because she didn't know what to do about her classes at Loyola and their web site was down...sent it to my sister...again thanks for this information.


847 posted on 08/31/2005 7:14:58 PM PDT by ozzysmom
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To: NautiNurse

No, but when a major disaster occurs, it is important to show how serious the disaster is.

The purpose of television news is to use pictures to tell the story.

I would show the bodies in as respectable, far-away view as I could so people would actually "get it."


848 posted on 08/31/2005 7:15:14 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: sam_paine
"I was talking about cramming the mike in a local cops face and him stammering for answers,"

Even at that all he had to say is I am not sure but I will get word to my supervisors and get you an answer back here as soon as possible.

Pretending like he didn't hear or ignoring the Reporter is just stupid.

849 posted on 08/31/2005 7:15:40 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: GOPrincess; NautiNurse

There is something I would like to ask but am afraid to because of post #1. I realize many people have friends and loved ones in the area - including our own FReeper friends.

Were any of the bridges closed down before Katrina hit? Or were they all still open and packed with people trying to leave town? Some of the pictures posted around of the "gone" Twin Span have cars in the wreckage, so I am unsure as to what happened.


850 posted on 08/31/2005 7:15:50 PM PDT by cgk (We'll have to deal w/ the networks. One way to do that is to drain the swamp they live in - Rumsfeld)
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To: XEHRpa
If it means anything, I have a buddy who is conservative at heart, but because he is immersed in a liberal environment, tends to adopt liberal positions on issues. Just this evening, I raised the spectre of Landrieu blaming the president for the hurricane. He just laughed at the desperate political games the RATs are pursuing. It obviously wasn't going to sell with him.

Yeah, but can't you just hear the rustle of keyboards in the distance, churning out a new round of blame-Bush propaganda? This might easily be the largest single Bush-bash yet which is saying a lot after Rathergate.

You know, I can almost smell it coming...
851 posted on 08/31/2005 7:16:08 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: bjs1779
That is all fine and dandy, but we have been on the scene in foreign countries with a more immediate response.

That's because in a foreign country, the military is not constrained by the US Constitution. It's a 14 page document, if you read it some time you'll find out about states rights.

852 posted on 08/31/2005 7:16:13 PM PDT by McGavin999 ("You must call evil by it's name" GW Bush ......... It's name is Terror)
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To: Shqipo

Doesn't Cindy know she's been violently b****-slapped off the TV by Katrina?


853 posted on 08/31/2005 7:16:40 PM PDT by nhoward14
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To: STARWISE
the bright yellow-shirted are the Scientologists .. they've also set up a tent.

I heard that. Gave me a chill.

854 posted on 08/31/2005 7:16:41 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: Thud
I'm not giving the mayor a pass, even given what happened. All of us here following the hurricane came to the conclusion that New Orleans would be hit by Friday. Some of us predicted it earlier than that, but even the NHC who had been previously been predicting a far more eastern track had reached that conclusion by late Friday night.

The mayor did not act until nearly noon on Sunday, less than 12 hours before the outer fringes of the storm hit the city.

That was just way too late. I have no idea whether his prediction skills on the number of deaths is correct, but that's not he was hired.

It's a fact that the new pumps are in a warehouse, perhaps ruined, because of city mismanagement which long preceded him. But he didn't do anything to change that.

New Orleans is a cesspool of corrupt politics and you can't even get elected unless you're part of that corrupt cabal.

So no, I'm not willing to give him a pass. He didn't even try.

855 posted on 08/31/2005 7:16:42 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Shqipo

Of course not. Someone in the DNC gave her the talking points and she stepped in front of a camera and repeated them. Anyone see Bret Hume today? He showed both sides of Cindy with Al Sharpton, it was great! I think he doesn't like her act. BTW... another reason to keep the hurricane front and center.... no Cindy Sheehan news.


856 posted on 08/31/2005 7:16:45 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: cgk
I've heard very little on ideas about how to fix the levee breaches.

If I understand correctly, the water level has equalized on both sides of the breach. With no appreciable current flowing through it anymore, it should just be a matter of dumping material into it to close it off, then pumping out the water on the side that's supposed to be dry. I think the strong flow through the breach was the problem up to this point.

857 posted on 08/31/2005 7:16:56 PM PDT by Riley (STOP CASTING POROSITY!!)
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To: STARWISE
the bright yellow-shirted are the Scientologists .. they've also set up a tent.

Gotta give 'em points for being enterprizing. Liars, to be sure, but enterprizing liars.

858 posted on 08/31/2005 7:17:25 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Tuxedo
My concern is this city is so big, how do you search every house in enough time to rescue even those barely alive?

Police rescue efforts have been discontinued so they can focus their attention on trying to get control of the thievin' mob.

859 posted on 08/31/2005 7:17:38 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: cgk

Someone else will correct me if I am wrong, but I recall hearing traffic was very light in the hours immediately preceding the worst of the storm.


860 posted on 08/31/2005 7:17:54 PM PDT by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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