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This is an outgrowth of a discussion earlier today…

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BIBLE art ✝️ “JUDAS' REMORSE AND SUICIDE” ✝️ Link to New Video, PASSION OF THE CHRIST Series

Posted on 3/21/2024, 11:10:20 AM by Hebrews 11:6

I wrote then…

The contrast yet similarity with Judas and Peter is insightful for ALL of us. (Note…apparently Bisjop Fulton Sheen had the same observation, though he’s waaaay smarter than me).

Yes, Judas betrayed Jesus. That was bad.

In a different way, Peter betrayed Jesus.

Both Apostles were upset about their action.

Judas took that anxiety and responded by “atoning for his sin” by retuning the coins.

Peter wept bitterly.

Judas hanged himself.

Jesus Resurrected meets Peter again, and (we presume) is forgiven.

I suspect, Judas isn’t in Heaven…BUT, it is arguable that had Judas not killed himself, Jesus would have forgiven him.

The lesson for us, is that as long as you are breathing, you are never too far gone for Our Lord’s forgiveness IF YOU WANT IT AND YOU ARE SORRY.

1 posted on 03/21/2024 3:47:09 PM PDT by DoodleBob
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To: DoodleBob

I don’t know. But he collected 30 pieces of silver instead of 200 dollars.


2 posted on 03/21/2024 3:49:22 PM PDT by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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To: DoodleBob

Yes he did.

In John 6:70 he said the disciples are all clean, but one is a devil.


3 posted on 03/21/2024 3:55:59 PM PDT by lurk (u)
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To: DoodleBob
The Son of man goeth as it is written of him: but woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man if he had not been born. (Matthew 26:24)
Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders, Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that. And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. (Matthew 27:3-5)
For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death. (2 Corinthians 7:10)

4 posted on 03/21/2024 3:59:45 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: DoodleBob
Judas was the first socialist:
Six days before the Passover, Jesus came to Bethany, where Lazarus lived, whom Jesus had raised from the dead. Here a dinner was given in Jesus' honor. Martha served, while Lazarus was among those reclining at the table with him. Then Mary took about a pint of pure nard, an expensive perfume; she poured it on Jesus' feet and wiped his feet with her hair. And the house was filled with the fragrance of the perfume. But one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, who was later to betray him, objected, "Why wasn't this perfume sold and the money given to the poor? It was worth a year's wages." He did not say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief; as keeper of the money bag, he used to help himself to what was put into it. "Leave her alone," Jesus replied. "It was intended that she should save this perfume for the day of my burial. You will always have the poor among you, but you will not always have me."
--John12:1-8

5 posted on 03/21/2024 3:59:53 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: DoodleBob

“Jesus calls Judas a devil! John 6:70 Then Jesus said, “I chose the twelve of you, but one is a devil.””

When choosing the 12, why didn’t Jesus pass up on the ‘devil’ Judas, and choose one less evil? Or was his betrayal part of the ‘Divine Plan of Attoning for Mans’ Sins’?


7 posted on 03/21/2024 4:04:18 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: DoodleBob
"The lesson for us, is that as long as you are breathing, you are never too far gone for Our Lord’s forgiveness"

Even though it it said the Jesus didn't force Judas to betray Him, He did know that Judas would.

So even though as long as we are breathing we can hope we may be saved, Jesus already knows whether or not we are.

Thus the paradox of free will and predestination.

9 posted on 03/21/2024 4:09:21 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (What is left around which to circle the wagons?action )
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To: DoodleBob

Quick quiz for you Bible Buffs:

Judas has a nickname referred to by Jesus Himself that is the exact same nickname to what other Bible Antagonist?


12 posted on 03/21/2024 4:17:23 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: DoodleBob

No human knows Judas’ final fate. (Seems rather weird to hear the speculation!)

If he did repent before his end, it would have been between him and his Maker/Master, we were not privy to this.

I do know that Jesus extended Grace to all — even beyond the grave (preached to those in Hell).

I’m glad that it’s not my responsibility to make judgments on others!


17 posted on 03/21/2024 4:30:22 PM PDT by hiho hiho
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To: DoodleBob

Judas most certainly went to Hell..The pit of Hell.


19 posted on 03/21/2024 4:38:53 PM PDT by dpetty121263
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Judas saw the miracles and heard Jesus preach. He had NO doubt Jesus was the Messiah. Like the rest of the Jewish nation, he wanted the yoke of Rome off of their necks and saw Jesus as the avenue for that. Jesus seemed to not want to use his extraordinary powers to achieve that but had a different kingdom in mind. He thought Jesus to meek to seek His glory but Judas could give Him a little nudge and be a hero (the money was an incentive also). Judas knew there was no way they’d harm/kill the Messiah. Judas was wrong. He suffered terrible grief. The best friend he ever had in the world and he helped condemn Him to a horrible death. He couldn’t live with himself for that. Whether he repented, we’ll never know in this lifetime.


22 posted on 03/21/2024 4:46:57 PM PDT by BipolarBob (If you bring up my past, you should know that Jesus dropped all of the charges.)
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To: DoodleBob; MurphsLaw
Did Judas Go To Hell?

Only God knows. But we do know that some, if not many, souls are in Hell.

Jesus Christ has told us that many times in scripture, despite what Jorge Bergoglio and Robert Barron profess.

23 posted on 03/21/2024 4:49:09 PM PDT by ebb tide
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The question is would he have asked for forgiveness?

My opinion, for what that is worth, is probably not.

Judas was a "by myself" sort of person. That is ok, to a point, but they become incapable of asking for help.

Judas tried to fix things so Jesus would be forced to use His power. When that did not work Judas probably lost his belief that Jesus was the Christ but he did realize that he had sold out an innocent.

So once again, he tried to fix it by going to the High Priests. And they basically told him, tough luck boy-o.

So he went and hung himself. Trying, still trying, to fix things with his own blood.

This is something that people still have a tough time with. Asking forgiveness and letting God fix it because you can not.

24 posted on 03/21/2024 4:50:57 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Roses are red, Violets are blue, I love being on the government watch list, along with all of you.)
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To: DoodleBob

The answer to the question is….nobody knows.


27 posted on 03/21/2024 5:04:00 PM PDT by TheGunny
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There is a LOT of undeniable truth in that discussion of Scripture. We are all fallen short but there is always a chance for repentance; you just have to mean it.


28 posted on 03/21/2024 5:13:05 PM PDT by Spacetrucker (George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to defeat the British - HE SHOT THEM .. WITH GUNS)
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To: DoodleBob

No, he became Trump’s Vice President.


31 posted on 03/21/2024 5:26:07 PM PDT by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh
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Jesus said Judas was lost, so I’m guessing yes.


34 posted on 03/21/2024 5:35:40 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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Jesus calls Judas a devil! John 6:70 Then Jesus said, “I chose the twelve of you, but one is a devil.”


He also called Peter, Satan, so...


35 posted on 03/21/2024 5:36:57 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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True Christians can never be demon possessed!

Not entirely true. They can be until they are freed by Christ. The Lord delivered many from demons. Were they not true Christians afterwards?

37 posted on 03/21/2024 5:42:30 PM PDT by frogjerk (More people have died trusting the government than not trusting the government.)
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To: Hebrews 11:6; xp38; No name given ; teeman8r; two-edged-sword

Ping from earlier today.


40 posted on 03/21/2024 6:12:20 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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Not one of us knows another’s heart fully and with their last breath even a monster of a person can find salvation. Only God knows each of our hearts, only He is our judge, and that is the way it should be.


44 posted on 03/21/2024 6:38:52 PM PDT by navymom1
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