Posted on 02/27/2021 1:36:09 PM PST by Cronos
In case you’re wondering how some religions are coping with the outbreak of COVID-19, just look to the Jehovah’s Witnesses to see how absurd reactions can get.
In a recent video featuring Governing Body member Stephen Lett, he absolutely delights in the disease because he sees it as a signal that Armageddon is imminent.
So the events unfolding around us are making clear, [more] than ever, that we’re living in the final part of the Last Days. Undoubtedly, the final part of the final part of the Last Days, shortly before the last day of the Last Days.
‘’’’’’’to God’’’’’’
Oiled, polished and charged!
Excuse?
It’s about the same as being mocked by an atheist:
“So, you believe in an invisible “god” that lives in the sky, right? You believe in the tooth fairy and unicorns, too?”
Except the atheist usually doesn’t know any better.
I guess that whole eating Jesus thing doesn’t really work after all.
“Sure seems like it. Or else they know that’s what Scripture says but they don’t have the Holy Spirit within them to open their eyes to its truth. Many things are “spiritually discerned”.”
Amen and amen. You’re right, BB. I know something appears to be very “off,” at any rate.
Those who argue against the spirit not being able to sin apparently don’t have that inward struggle at all. I’ve never met a Christian who didn’t have to deal with it on a daily basis. They accuse others of sinning willfully, or at least wanting to sin, and that’s evidence that they don’t know what others are talking about.
My “flesh” wants me to tell them a thing or two in words of my own choosing, but the Spirit won’t let me do it. He is guard over my mouth and my typing fingers. Even so, I know very well that I could go on and do it. It’s our choice to walk in the flesh or the spirit on a moment to moment basis. It’s that I’ve learned from experience that the inward grief to follow would not be worth it and I don’t want to be on the floor crying out to God and telling Him how sorry I am, and begging Him to remove the chastisement which would surely follow. I would not have wronged the other person so much as I would have wronged my Savior.
So, if I go ahead and tell what I really think then it’s me in the flesh doing my own evil desire and letting Pride take the lead.
If I refrain from it, it’s not really me – and believe me, I know this better than anyone – rather, it’s the Spirit that indwells me that keeps me from doing it.
If I were still my old self, I would have let loose a long time ago with my own words. (But in truth would not even be on this thread at all if I were still my old (unsaved) self.) I wouldn’t care at all because I would be justified in my own sight in saying what was on my mind and would still have that old need to defend myself and to be right.
Now, however, it’s just not so. Once saved and indwelt by God’s Holy Spirit, there is a barrier of sorts (Him) to having our own (old) way. He won’t let us by with it. We can go ahead and do it, of course, but it only takes a few chastisements from Him to know that we don’t want any more of them. They’re far too painful. I don’t need to ask you or any other Christian if you know what I mean. It’s a lesson we all learn rather quickly. He means business, and our behavior matters.
I think I lose sight of that sometimes...While we post scripture that is so simple and clear to us, they just don't get it...
And all I really have to do is remember back before I was saved...God was telling me to open the book and I did...And nothing made a lick of sense to me...
And if we don't get the milk he provides for us, he is certainly not going to give us any meat...Apparently if you don't get or refuse the milk, he gives you some blood...
I wonder, does the father of lies immediately rush to implant the 'reasoning' that they don't see a perfect life after that claim of being born again. So they reject the entire truth that today is the day, this is the hour they are being called to believe in The Savior, Whom God has sent, so to receive the Holy Spirit seal within our human spirit which was before operating by the inveigling of the spirit of death?
I wonder, is that negation 'reasoning' planted in the pride cubbyhole of their soul, so it 'feels' personal, as if a super gotcha has been discover by that pride power?
I wonder, is that why such folks reject the Truth that there is coming a day when GOD will transform and snatch away from this four dimensional realm the Body of Christ Believers, by placing the sinless spirit of the born agains into a glorified body and behavior mechanism that is also sinless and not drawn to prideful sin like the old flesh nature?
2 Thess 2:3 has Paul telling us that the antichrist cannot be revealed until after the Body of Christ Believers are departed from the 4 dimensional realm. The sticking word for so many is 'apostasia', The Apostasia.
The etymology of the word is the Greek 'apos' (apart or away from) and the verb 'histemi' (to stand). This yields in fundamental form (with a definite article preceding apostasia) 'The To stand away from', translated simply with The Departure in the first few English Translation Bibles. Even Jerome translated 'The Apostasia' with the Latin word for depart and the definite article in Latin yielding The Departure.
This is an event of what Paul describes in 1 Corinthians 15:50-58 as a transformation in the twinkling of an eye, for the still alive when Jesus comes to gather us to Himself and return to the Father's House where He, Jesus, has been preparing lodging places for us (John 14) during the seven years of Tribulation upon the Earthdwellers and ISRAEL.
Paul wrote that the corruptible (our 4D flesh) must put on incorruptible, faintly echoing what Jesus told His disciples after His resurrection, when He suddenly appeared in the locked and shuttered Upper Room to correct Thomas's doubting.
But why a departure to remove the restrainer? ... These are aspects of the meat an unregenerate mind cannot grasp or even ask. These are details of our status as born agains that the infant in Christ will not even ask until some growth in the spirit has happened.
Thus, marvel not when you see the mocking and derision coming from unregenerate spirits, they have a spirit manipulating the mind of their soul which hates God and them and the Body of Christ which is to be departed before the all signs and lying wonders powers of satan can be released.
During the Age of the Church (Body of Christ Believers, not a specific org or denomination) satan has focused his hate attacks upon the Believers, knowing they are escaped his final destination. Once the Body of Christ Believers are 'apostasiaed' from the 4D realm, satan will again focus his powers to deceive upon Israel, for 3 and 1/2 years anyway.
I guess it somehow doesn’t look like what they think it should so they reject it offhand.
Or maybe as boatbums said, it’s pride and the need to feel that you are doing SOMETHING to help God.
Or maybe it’s just plain fear, that people are actually afraid to lean completely on God and trust Him fully.
I cannot quite fathom how people think they can do anything that’s even remotely righteous enough to be accepted by God.
Not only are our motives suspect, we are corrupted by sin and therefore anything we do that we offer to God for atonement is corrupted as well.
There also must be a failure to see how much sin we have in our lives and how incapable we are of making atonement. The wages of sin is death, and good works are not the correct payment for the sin.
Hear here! ‘The mystery of iniquity is a mystery.’
I wonder, how many today realize there are significant differences between The Gospel of Grace during the Church Age and the Gospel of the Kingdom to be preached during the Tribulation period?
At least 2, if yer countin' you...
As I know you know, none of them has a testimony...None of them has ever turned to Jesus...None of them has ever called on the name of the Lord to save them...They mock us when we talk of a sinner's prayer...They mock us when we speak of a personal relationship with Jesus...
And there has to be a certain amount of jealousy...We claim to be indwelt and led by the Spirit of God and they have no idea what we're talking about...We're going to heaven and they are not, unless they are good enough...
I feel kind of bad for them...It's got to be extra tough to be born a Catholic...You have to overcome a lot of the baggage of that religion just to realize you have to call on Jesus, ask him to save you...
So, O great bible scholars, what’s the answer? Can born again’s commit sin or not? Are they robots or perfect, or not? Why are you avoiding answering that question?
It may be that MHG and met have slipped up in language, which is understandable.
But if someone says “it wasn’t me who did it, it was my body/soul who did it” - that’s passing the buck.
We sin and we get forgiven.
Why won’t any of these people give a straight answer?
Can you sin after you die? What dies? Not just the body stops functioning, so you definitely CANNOT sin after you die.
What has died in our salvation by faith alone in Christ alone? Paul answers that precise thing and you have read it without realizing what GOD is saying when He has Paul write that our flesh has been put to death on the cross. Spiritually, the sin nature is sequestered away from the born again spirit where GOD is abiding, IRREVOCABLY.
The Word of God tells us that it is GOD WHO is in the born again. God abides in the spirit of the born again. God cannot sin so the born again spirit remains sinless until GOD pairs that spirit with a new body and behavior mechanism, in the Departure of The Body of Christ.
The corruptible MUST put on incorruptible. The flesh (body + behavior mechanism / soul) is corruptible and so long as it is not in the grave it will sin. We live by the spirit where God IS abiding as we deny the flesh to rule over us. That is what WE are called to do.
What does God do? He abides in our born again spirit so that there is an aspect to us that cannot sin and is awaiting The Departure from this 4D realm.
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WHEN I am finally in his presence, it will be because of this:
12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
13I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
A possible scenario: (And I do not even begin to claim I speak for God so let's get that straight right now)
God to MHGinTN and Ravi: "Why didn't you keep my commandments like I told you to?" I am not a respecter of persons and I treat everyone the same. And, I flat out told you that EVERYONE will be judged by my law, whether you keep it or not. It was right there in Romans. How could you have missed it? Didn't anyone bring it to your attention? And Ravi, you shouldn't have been listening to "Big Larry" No Bueno. And talking about rewards, I asked John to make it very clear that my reward is with me to give every man (and woman) according as his WORK shall be. How much clearer could it have been? And one last thing...where did you get this "Christians can sin" thing you kept tell everyone about? That didn't come from me. That and the pre trib rapture theory was all from Lucifer (he's not a dumb as you think he is)
11For there is no respect of persons with God.
12For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
13(For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
LOL, right on cue the mocker shows up!
Actually, it was rough at work last night and I just woke up and signed on. Nothing nefarious going on.
Can you sin after you die? What dies? Not just the body stops functioning, so you definitely CANNOT sin after you die.
What does God do? He abides in our born again spirit so that there is an aspect to us that cannot sin and is awaiting The Departure from this 4D realm.
Born againers cannot sin
There is an “aspect” to born againers that cannot sin
The spirit in born againers cannot sin but the flesh can
Born againers are perfect
Born againers are robots
If Ravi raped those women he’s still going to heaven but his reward will be less.
WHAT ON THIS EARTH ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY???
Let me quote Barnes again:
Barnes’s Notes: Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin - This passage must either mean that they who are born of God, that is, who are true Christians, do not sin habitually and characteristically, or that everyone who is a true Christian is absolutely perfect, and never commits any sin. If it can be used as referring to the doctrine of absolute perfection at all, it proves, not that Christians may be perfect, or that a “portion” of them are, but that all are. But who can maintain this? Who can believe that John meant to affirm this? Nothing can be clearer than that the passage has not this meaning, and that John did not teach a doctrine so contrary to the current strain of the Scriptures, and to fact; and if he did not teach this, then in this whole passage he refers to those who are habitually and characteristically righteous.
The corruptible MUST put on incorruptible. The flesh (body + behavior mechanism / soul) is corruptible and so long as it is not in the grave it will sin. We live by the spirit where God IS abiding as we deny the flesh to rule over us. That is what WE are called to do.
Adding to the list on post 359:
“It’s the FLESH + BEHAVIOR MECHANISM / soul that sins (so Ravi gets a free pass and rape isn’t a sin and rape really isn’t rape” “If your flesh sins, meh, don’t worry about it. Your spirit can’t sin and you’re fine as far as God is concerned. But, on earth, you might do 10-20 in prison. Just do your time and then I’ll see you in the clouds.”
You have got to admit...that last part was funny.
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