Posted on 03/14/2010 8:47:22 PM PDT by Gerhard Ebersöhn
Any theory about on which days of the week our Lord Jesus Christ was crucified and resurrected stands or falls by its answering for the day He was BURIED on: "That Day great day sabbath" of the passover, Abib 15, from its BEGINNING "EVENING HAVING HAD COME", Mk15:42 Mt 27:57 Lk23:50 Jn19:31,38 -- UNTIL its ENDING having begun "MID-AFTERNOON" "by the time of the Jews' prepararions" "the Sabbath (Seventh Day of the week) drawing near", Lk23:54 Jn19:42 -- "That Day having been The Preparation which is The Fore-Sabbath" : the Sixth Day of the week, 'Friday'.
Any theory about on which days of the week our Lord Jesus Christ was crucified AND BURIED and resurrected stands or falls by its answering for 'the God-given and therefore eschatological IMPERATIVE WHOLENESS' (Lohmeyer's words) of the "three days and three nights" "three days" on "the third day" of which "He rose from the dead ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES" 1Cor15:3-4 the passover-Scriptures of both the Old and the New Testaments.
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Trying to drum up a bit of traffic for your website, eh?
We don’t know what day or month Jesus was born in, or even what year. I mean, they say He was born about 4BC, but how’s that possible? Can He have been born before He was born? My head’s gonna explode! Let’s call the whole thing off...it must be a big crock and my faith’s just shattered now! /extreme sarc.
Ha! Ha! Good one...I needed that!
Spend your energies promoting Jesus. Rather than insignificant theories about days of the week.
You need to humble yourself, my friend. Among other things, if you don’t, you won’t last long on FR.
It’s Christian now no matter what you say or how it started.
OK, I will take the road nobody wants to travel, but it should matter to a Christian. Now I don't know this person, nor do I vouch for anything he says, but dates and time DO matter if you want to know about God's timing. All these dates were commanded to be observed in the OT as Divine Feast days for God. They are not our days but God's days. To make a long story short, Jesus was born on Tabernacles, Died on Passover, in the tomb for Unleavened Bread, rose on First Fruits, and the Holy Spirit as given on Pentecost. Now why this is important is, God was forecasting His plan to His followers. Knowing God has fulfilled His plan faithfully and accurately in the past should give us great confidence in His plan moving forward on the proper days in the future. The only unfulfilled Feast Days are Rapture, on some future Feast of Trumpets, Judgment Day will occur on a future Yom Kippur, and the return, rule and reign of our Lord will happen on a future Tabernacles. Now, will you go to hell if you celebrate pagan days instead of the days we were commanded by God to observe? I don't know, but faith that Jesus will save you is what saves you. Arguing about other subjects in the Bible are interesting, eye opening, and also shows your trust that God didn't lie to you. A trip to hell is probably not in the cards. But God also shows His frustrations with humans when he says we are destroyed by our lack of knowledge, we should get off the milk and go to the meat, and other verses that God uses to encourage us to mature in our walk with Him. A Christian cannot understand the true message of Jesus without a study of Jewish culture, Feast days, and traditions. Jesus was and is a Jew, after all. The term "Chosen People" used for the Jews doesn't mean they are better than anyone, but that God would reveal Himself through the Jews. There is nothing wrong with a Christian observing the Jewish holidays as long as they understand their meaning. I don't have an opinion on observing pagan holidays and attaching Jesus meanings to them. If you celebrate Easter, but observe it because Jesus rose on First Fruits, I just don't have an opinion. I do worry about a slippery slope connecting pagan anything with Jesus. Christmas is by far the worst. It is pagan through and through. Tree's Green, Santa, trading gifts, almost everything is pagan and has nothing to do with Tabernacles. The Bible even instructs us to NOT give gifts like the pagans do. The Bible gives a list of things that many Christians do, and lists them as "Doctrines of Demons". There is so much we do wrong however, I'm not sure what the penalties are for this. IMHO, the biggest sin may be calling Sunday the Sabbath. Jesus met for church on Saturday, just as all the other Jews did. I can't find the verse where He changed it to Sun. I feel we have been given freedom and aren't so tied to the Law as the Jews were, but there is also no commandment telling us it doesn't matter anymore. The post writer is probably a Jew and is imparting his view of the world to us sinners. Nothing wrong with that. If it sparks someone to read their Bible and not depend on the History Channel( or FR) to get their info, maybe it's worth it.
Nowhere in Matt. 12:39ff is hell mentioned. “Heart of the earth” or similar translations refer only to the grave.
Just ponder it. Set aside whatever you may have been told by men, including me, and prayerfully meditate on the beauty of the Word.
Consider the possibility that Jehovah God, our Father, is more than capable of preserving Scripture and ensuring that, through the generations, Truth is there for those with open minds who seek and study.
No He Didn't! He said 3 days and 3 nights in the GRAVE! Maybe you need to check up on the term "hades" and "sheol"?
Have you actually been to Hell?
You would have to have died to be buried - in hell/grave.
I don’t believe there is a sunny day in Hell.
Neither do I. I don't believe that the sun lightens up the ground 6 feet deep :-)
I dunno about that, but you certainly hold the record for run-on sentences.
This claim is hashed out, and dispensed with, every year at Easter. One almost wishes one could post the picture of the man saying “Aw Jeez, not this **** again!” but this is the religious board and it would be pulled.
It must bepointed out that people in the ancient world counted differently than we do. When marking time or steps, ancient people counted the one on whcih their were standing as #1. Here’s an example:
Suppose you played Monopoly with Julius Caesar and he had his chariot on Free Parking. He throws a 10 and you smile because you claim he just landed on Go to Jail. He says no, I’ve landed on Marvin Gardens. You say no- Kentucky Ave is 1, the railroad is 5 and Go to Jail is 10. Julius Caesar says that you’re being ridiculous. Free Parking is 1, Kentuck is 2, the railroad is 6 and Marvin Gardens is 10.
Jesus died and rose in three days. Friday is 1, Saturday is 2 and Sunday is 3.
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Apostles Creed:
He descended into hell, on the third day is rose again from the grave.
Some Catholics now say “descended to the dead”.
On the cross, Christ said to the good thief, “Today you will be with me in paradise.” Because Christ was the first one into heaven, Catholics know that he descended to those waiting to enter heaven — one of the Gospels even talks about the dead rising from their graves and roaming throughout Jerusalem. They an the dead waiting in paradise (Purgatory) in Catholic language) just had to wait for Christ to enter heaven first.
Especially when you consider the writing and teachers of the Early Fathers of the Church!
Love your remark about the run-on sentences. LOL!
I can think of no better reply than Jesus' in Matthew 23.... Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
Not from me. Have account, may post. and take his lumps.
Or maybe, just maybe, scripture means what it says, and “on the third day” refers to the third day after the crucifixion, as in “Friday, Saturday, Sunday.”
Look, my mind is wide open on the matter. I find it both interesting and enlightening to put aside what I’ve been told and read scripture anew, looking at what it actually says rather than what other people say it says. It’s dangerous to cling to tradition over truth as the Pharisees did.
“. . . it is the third day since all of this took place,” Cleopas and his friend told Jesus on Sunday (Luke 24:21).
I can’t find any justification at all in scripture for a Friday crucifixion, other than that the following day was a Sabbath.
“”Now it was the Day of Preparation, and the next day was to be a special Sabbath.” (John 19:31)
Since we know it was the Passover Sabbath (see Lev. 23:7), it could have fallen on any day of the week. However, the women didn’t go to the tomb until Sunday morning, so we know they were apparently kept away by Sabbath restrictions between the time of burial and sunrise Sunday. A Thursday crucifixion, Friday Passover sabbath, Saturday weekly sabbath, and Sunday resurrection explains everything.
I’ve been at this for six decades, plan to keep studying till the Lord calls me home. Then I hope for a first-hand account of how it all went down. Won’t that be truly awesome?
I would submit the Sabbath is another thing.
I would submit that "the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath." And to quibble about whether it's Saturday or Sunday is to run afoul of Jesus' point when He said that.
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