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'Exit protocol' for brain-disabled woman? (Breaking - Schiavo)
WorldNetDaily ^ | Aug. 29, 2003 | Sarah Foster

Posted on 08/29/2003 10:41:03 PM PDT by kimmie7

'Exit protocol' for brain-disabled woman? Husband orders wife removed from hospital despite severe illness

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: August 29, 2003 6:15 p.m. Eastern

By Sarah Foster © 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

A five-year legal battle over whether a brain-disabled woman should be allowed to live or forced to die of starvation took another turn today when Michael Schiavo ordered his wife Terri removed from a hospital where she is being treated for a severe infection.

Terri Schindler-Schiavo before her disability.

The move back to a hospice where the Florida woman has lived for more than three years could lead to her death, a family spokeswoman told WorldNetDaily.

"The family is very concerned Terri won't be properly cared for at the hospice and won't make it through the weekend," said Pamela Hennessey.

Terri still is reported to be "extremely congested and at least a bit feverish," Hennessey said.

The Schindler family fears this move is intended as an "exit protocol," with the intention of hastening her death, Hennessey said in a just-issued statement.

"There can't be any way Terri was well enough to leave the hospital," Terri's sister Suzanne Schindler-Carr told Hennessey. "She's still such a very sick girl."

It was the second such crisis in less than two weeks and the most recent development in the on-going battle between Terri's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, and their son-in-law that began with his efforts to remove the feeding tube Terri depends upon for sustenance.

Michael Schiavo (Photo: WFLA-TV)

According to documents filed with the court, Terri was transferred Sunday from the Hospice of the Florida Suncoast to the emergency room of Morton Plant Hospital in Clearwater, Fla., because of vomiting, fever, coughing, and severe diarrhea. Tests revealed lung congestion and an elevated white blood cell count, indicating a "substantial infection."

The Schindler's attorney Patricia Anderson said a federal statute prohibits an institution from discharging a person before they've been stabilized medically. But a patient can always discharge himself against medical advice.

"Since Michael Schiavo is Terri's legal guardian, he can do that, and that's what he's doing," said Anderson.

By order of an appeals court, Judge George Greer of Florida's 6th Circuit Court will hold a hearing Sept. 11 to set a date for removing the feeding tube, which would lead to starvation within 10 to 14 days.

Schiavo's request to order Terri returned to the hospice was faxed to Greer yesterday by his legal representative, right-to-die attorney George Felos, and is the second attempt this week to ensure his wife receives no medical treatment.

The day following her readmission to Morton Plant, Felos filed papers asking the court to order all treatment for Terri stopped "other than comfort care" for her infection and any additional medical problems that might arise.

In an emergency motion faxed Monday afternoon to Greer, Felos argued that since the courts of Florida had approved the removal of her feeding tube, death by starvation was a foregone conclusion and there was no need to intervene.

"Given the imminence of the ward's death, further treatment (other than comfort care) for the ward's infection and other medical problems is unnecessary, unwarranted, inappropriate, and futile," he declared.

He also requested an "immediate hearing" to set the date for removal of Terri's feeding tube.

Judge Greer denied the motion Tuesday, stating such a determination would require a hearing, but endorsed Schiavo's request to return her to the hospice.

As WorldNetDaily reported, the Schindlers have been locked in a decade-long battle with their son-in-law over the care and custody of their daughter, who suffered massive brain damage when she collapsed at their home 13 years ago under unexplained circumstances at the age of 26.

The bitter dispute over Terri's quality of care erupted five years ago into a full-blown euthanasia battle when Schiavo petitioned the court for permission to have her feeding removed, claiming she is in a persistent vegetative state and would not want to be kept alive by "artificially." Although Terri breathes on her own and maintains her own blood pressure, she requires a tube for nourishment and hydration. The Schindlers and a number of doctors and therapists believe that with therapy she could be rehabilitated, but the courts have consistently sided with Schiavo and attorney George Felos.

This current emergency medical crisis was essentially a replay of events two weeks ago when Terri was taken to Morton Plant because she was coughing up blood and appeared to have aspiration pneumonia. She was returned to the hospice less than a week later, before she had fully recovered.

As before, the Schindlers have not been apprised their daughter's condition, despite a 1996 court order in which Schiavo agreed to inform the Schindlers of any changes in his wife's physical condition.

The Schindlers learned about Terri's emergency transfer from the hospice to the hospital Monday morning, hours after the fact. Not until their attorney Patricia Anderson received a fax from George Felos informing her of Terri's sudden crisis did they have any information.

Pamela Hennessey recalled last Monday's events for WorldNetDaily.

"As soon as they heard, her parents went immediately to the hospital and to the admissions section, and the first thing admissions said was there's no one here by that name," said Hennessey.

"Then they did confirm she was there, but did not tell them what room she was in, Hennessey continued. "So the Schindlers had to carry on for at least an hour before they found out where Terri even was. They never got any indication of her condition, diagnosis, prognosis, nothing. And they still haven't. All they know is Terri has a massive infection and fever."

Pat Anderson reports Mary Schindler has been with her daughter every day, all day until 8 p.m., when hospital rules dictate they must leave. Bob Schindler says she holds Terri in her arms, and when they started to leave, Terri's eyes fill with tears.

'Exit protocol'?

Terri's current medical crisis drew the attention of Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who said he was "disturbed" by rumors about Schiavo's actions related to Terri's current care. In his letter to Greer Tuesday requesting a delay in removal of Terri's feeding tube until certain issues are investigated, Bush called specific attention to Schiavo's request to disallow treatment.

"It has come to my attention that Mrs. Schiavo has contracted a life-threatening illness and that she may be denied appropriate treatment," the governor wrote. "If true, this indicates a decision by her caregivers to initiate an 'exit protocol' that may include withholding treatment from Mrs. Schiavo until her death, which would render this court's ultimate decision moot."

Bush urged Greer to ensure that "no act of omission or commission be allowed to adversely affect Mrs. Schiavo's health before the September 11th hearing you have set. No one involved should be permitted to circumvent due process or the court's authority in order to achieve personal objectives in this case."


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To: annyokie
I don't mean to be nasty. This is just weighing so heavily on my mind and heart. I'm not an alarmist type person. I don't subscribe to conspiracy theories. I'm not some hick trying to get a rise out of people -- but this truly is a matter of life and death. And the more I read about this type of thing happening and these types of people who are so anxious to promote euthanasia and the culture of death, the more determined I become to do something.

I didn't mean to offend you, but I won't ease up. They're going to kill Terri Schiavo. "Legallly." And the ramifications terrify me. As well they should us all.

21 posted on 08/29/2003 11:43:51 PM PDT by kimmie7 (I need more time, more coffee, and more bandwidth.)
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To: annyokie
And I love your office, BTW. It's very similar to my own. Except I have RC airplanes hanging all over the place. (My hubby's hobby.)
22 posted on 08/29/2003 11:46:36 PM PDT by kimmie7 (I need more time, more coffee, and more bandwidth.)
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To: Don Joe
I heard somewhere that the "fund" is around $750,000. Really, not a princely sum these days (although more than my net worth).

Maybe it's too late, but funds have been raised for less worthy causes. If that $750,00 could be raised on her behalf, he'd get his money and he could divorce her, and then the settlement funds would still be there to provide for her care.

Well ... it's a thought ... something has to move this situation in a different direction.

23 posted on 08/29/2003 11:51:52 PM PDT by RightField (the older you get ..... the older "old" is ......)
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To: kimmie7
I wonder if Florida's Adult Protective Services can step in?
24 posted on 08/29/2003 11:53:37 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
because, I should add, Michael is abusing Terri :-(
25 posted on 08/29/2003 11:54:21 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: RightField
The court is allowing her "husband" to use this money to pay her "doctor" at $450/hr if I remember correctly. I saw something about that on Terri's website this evening.
26 posted on 08/29/2003 11:55:53 PM PDT by kimmie7 (I need more time, more coffee, and more bandwidth.)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
I'm not familiar with that organization. I'll Google it. Good thinking though. Also pursuing some very interesting things with regard to ethical/evidentiary/procedural violations on the part of both M.Schiavo/Felos and the court system on the Call to Action thread.
27 posted on 08/29/2003 11:57:48 PM PDT by kimmie7 (I need more time, more coffee, and more bandwidth.)
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To: kimmie7
It's okay, hon. There are so many on this forum who jump and scream and finger-point that it's hard to find the kind souls sometimes.

I agree that Terri must be saved from the terrible fate of starvation and I do think, from what I have learned that her husband is guilty about her state and needs to go to prison, MHO.

Thanks for the kind words about our office. It used to be our service porch, now I take fifteen more steps out to the used to be work shop to do the wash! ; )
28 posted on 08/29/2003 11:57:52 PM PDT by annyokie (One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others.)
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To: annyokie
Well, you deserve the apology. I don't know why I'm so emotional over this -- I would be normally, but I'm near tears for this poor woman and her family. Just hitting me close to home I suppose.
29 posted on 08/30/2003 12:01:41 AM PDT by kimmie7 (I need more time, more coffee, and more bandwidth.)
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To: kimmie7
APS is the adult version of child protective services. It covers all adults technically but is geared towards the elderly and the disabled. They have the ability to remove legal guardians and caretakers from positions of authority if those individuals are found to be abusive or neglectful. Certainly, a case for that could be made in regards to Michael Schiavo.

Anyone can file a complaint.
30 posted on 08/30/2003 12:04:48 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: kimmie7
"suffered massive brain damage when she collapsed at their home 13 years ago under unexplained circumstances at the age of 26."

Maybe he was trying to get rid of her 13 years ago?
31 posted on 08/30/2003 12:05:39 AM PDT by shellylet
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah; annyokie
We have to file with someone who would be willing to do the follow-up; otherwise, it will just get thrown in the trash. Is there anyone who knows someone inside the APS?
32 posted on 08/30/2003 12:08:17 AM PDT by dandelion
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To: kimmie7
No need to apologize!
You are showing your heart in caring about this poor girl!

Do you have family who went through this, not that it's my business? I have had miscarriages, premature births, and birth defects with each, but not all of my children. My beloved gramma languished in a "rest home" for eight months until she passed.

She had bedsores and was so bunged up once when I went to visit (Blacked eye and stitches in her eyebrow) I was ready to kill someone. It turned out that some new-hire put her in a chair when she went to change her bed and didn't strap her in so she fell like a rag doll and broke her eye.

I know how you feel. Bless.
33 posted on 08/30/2003 12:11:14 AM PDT by annyokie (One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others.)
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To: dandelion
Sorry, dnadelion. I'm a thousand miles away in Oklahoma.
34 posted on 08/30/2003 12:14:00 AM PDT by annyokie (One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others.)
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To: dandelion
I'm in California so I don't. I'm a RN and I have filled out a few reports. Yes, you're right, they have to be worded in such a way to get someone's attention and it is helpful to know someone on the inside.

Perhaps a good place to start would be medical neglect. Although Schiavo hasn't actively done anything to harm her recently, he has refused to do things which are resulting in harm.

I wonder if one of the nurses at the hospital or hospice would be willing to write one.
35 posted on 08/30/2003 12:16:34 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
I can't help but think that surely there's a nurse somewhere who knows what's going on. Perhaps tomorrow we can get some Florida people in on it.
36 posted on 08/30/2003 12:19:20 AM PDT by kimmie7 (I need more time, more coffee, and more bandwidth.)
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To: dandelion
Have you seen this??



http://www.sptimes.com/News/092301/SouthPinellas/Neighborhood_briefs.shtml

Group to hold conference on caring for the elderly
"Soaring to New Heights in Elder Care" is the theme for this year's Guardian Association conference.

The conference will be from 7:45 a.m. to 5 p.m. Friday at the St. Petersburg Yacht Club, 11 Central Ave.Scheduled subjects include right-to-life issues, addressed by Judge George Greer, and sessions on community resources, Medicaid qualifications, ethics and incapacity. Attendees may be eligible for continuing education credits.

Fee for the conference is $75, which includes continental breakfast and lunch. Call 360-3622 or visit www.guardian-association.com.





37 posted on 08/30/2003 12:19:44 AM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: annyokie
I'm so sorry about your gramma. I haven't been in this serious a situation personally. My darling son was born 3 months early at 2lbs3oz but is great at age 4! My dear hubby was severely burned at work 10 years ago and we got through that (he couldn't feed himself but only because of bandages, etc. - I was happy to oblige him.)

I suppose my feelings come from having worked in the terminal section of a nursing home. I was the opposite of the youngster who let your gramma get bungled up. They were my pals, surrogate-grandparents, and yes I had 2 vegetative-state patients whom I adored and spoiled horribly. I'm not tooting my horn, but I'm proud to say I passed my Certified Nurse Assistant test with a perfect score and went on to fall in love with everyone on my floor. I cried bitterly when I lost a patient and later when I left to be married. After I moved down here with dear hubby I got more into my field of study at college and have since concentrated on graphic design with a little law thrown in for good measure. :-)

38 posted on 08/30/2003 12:25:55 AM PDT by kimmie7 (I need more time, more coffee, and more bandwidth.)
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To: RightField
According to one article I read, there is only about $350,000 left. The parents offered to pay him whatever is left if he would give up guardianship, but he refused.
39 posted on 08/30/2003 12:41:52 AM PDT by iowamomforfreedom
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To: kimmie7
I'm so pleased that you have found a new direction. I know you will do well since you are such a caring person.

My youngest wasn't born nearly as prematurly as your son. He was 36 weeks and 5 pounds eight ounces and on life-support for ten days. The docs blew a hole in his lung with the ventilator (pneumo-thorax), he lost weight and I spent all ten days sitting next to him, holding his little hand and watching him look at pictures of his brothers I had taped to the inside of his basinette.

Many were the wonderful girls who tended to the babies in the NICU. They expressed to me (privately) their disgust with the (mainly) moms, and sometimes dads who seldom if ever isited their babies and spoke with reverence of those who had their little ones baptised and held them as they passed.

I hope your hubby is okay now. Again good luck in your .

I can't imagine a more heart-breaking job other than pediatric oncology.

Best of luck in your new endevour.
40 posted on 08/30/2003 12:46:07 AM PDT by annyokie (One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others.)
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