'Exit protocol' for brain-disabled woman? (Breaking - Schiavo)

WorldNetDaily ^ | Aug. 29, 2003 | Sarah Foster

[kimmie7]

I didn't see this posted anywhere...thought I would. May I also refer you to http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/971896/posts for some interesting discussion and, I believe, brand new insights - especially in some of the later posts.

[Mo1]

Judge Greer denied the motion Tuesday, stating such a determination would require a hearing, but endorsed Schiavo's request to return her to the hospice.

THAT IS COMPLETE AND UTTER BS .. This Judge needs to be brought up on ethic charges IMO!!

[dandelion]

Greer wants her dead. I believe there's a payoff somewhere...

[kimmie7]

I completely agree with you. Further, check out the link. Felos - the attorney for her "husband" was co-Director of the hospice she is in until at least April 10, 2001!!!! More info on the FR Call to Action Schiavo link I posted above.

[annyokie]

Oh, shame on you! No judge wishes a defensless woman dead.

If she isn't brain-dead, and I have read that she is not, it is her family's responsability to have her cared for and in the event that they cannot then it is the State of Florida's responability to do so.

[Ronin]

Unless Jeb orders in State Police or the Attorney General slaps on some kind of restraining order here, this poor woman is going to be dead -- murdered, in my opinion -- within days.

There is enough conflict of interest here to take action. The letter he wrote was nice, but not enough, Jeb needs to take action, and do it soon.

[Mo1]

If she isn't brain-dead, and I have read that she is not, it is her family's responsability to have her cared for and in the event that they cannot then it is the State of Florida's responability to do so.

Please read about this case .. This Judge has denied her family any rights .. he has denied therapy to imporve he life .. he has denied proper tests to be done .. he has denied given her an independent guardian to look after her best interest

About the only thing he has agreed to is keeping her husband who I might add there are questions about abuse .. to be her legal guardain .. and this Judge has agreed with her husband to disconnect her feeding tube so that she starves to death.

[annyokie]

I agree. I take issue with the "payola" stance of others here. Not everthing is a conspiracy.

What? Wait are those black helocopters in my yard?

[Petronski]

In an emergency motion faxed Monday afternoon to Greer, Felos argued that since the courts of Florida had approved the removal of her feeding tube, death by starvation was a foregone conclusion and there was no need to intervene.

Live well, Felos, lest ye rely on the ill-informed for your right to recover at some future date.

[kimmie7]

If she isn't brain-dead, and I have read that she is not, it is her family's responsability to have her cared for and in the event that they cannot then it is the State of Florida's responability to do so.

I certainly hope that was sarcasm.....her family has been begging for YEARS for her husband to just divorce her and go -- to let them take care of her and provide her care and he refuses!

Take a good, unbiased, unpessimistic look at the facts in this case and you'll find that something stinks about all this -- and it ain't disinfectent, baby!!!!!!!!!!

[sfRummygirl]

This is so freakin' sick. He is so sick I can't even comprehend this, what the parents are going through.

[dandelion]

No, I think Greer wants Terri dead, annyokie. I've been doing a little research, and not only was Felos the chairman of the board at Hospice of the Florida Suncoast, but also, according to Hospice Patients' Alliance, Judge Lenderman's wife (who shares the bench with Greer) is on the board of the Hospice. Every judge on the Sixth Circuit probably knows that Felos was Chairman of the Board for Hospice, including Greer - and yet they allowed testimony from doctors who once worked under Felos to influence decisions.

This information was not made known to the Schindlers, but the judge and Mike Schiavo's attorney knew that the doctors testimonies were tainted by conflict of interest...

TERRI SCHIAVO TO DIE IN ATTORNEY'S "DEATH FACTORY"? SUNCOAST HOSPICE BOSS WAS GEORGE FELOS...

Shame on Greer, instead; and yes, I do think he wants her dead. Why, I intend to find out...

[dandelion]

Martha Lenderman, is listed as sister of the judge by one source...(http://www.hospicepatients.org/is-the-hospice-A-faithful-Steward-of-Donations.html)

[Don Joe]

Felos filed papers asking the court to order all treatment for Terri stopped "other than comfort care" for her infection

Curious.

I didn't know that a "vegetable" could experience discomfort.

Methinks the ghoul has tripped himself in his own words. By acknowledging the need for "comfort care", he has acknowledged the fact that she is capable of suffering.

In other words, he has admitted that she is not in a "persistent vegetative" condition.

[dandelion]

Repost of above link (Martha Lenderman, sister to circuit judge), that one's BAD :(

http://www.hospicepatients.org/is-the-hospice-A-faithful-Steward-of-Donations.html

Let's see if this one works...

[annyokie]

This is terrible! Thank you for letting me into the loop, however.

[kimmie7]

Read this about "Terminal Sedation" and see if it doesn't call to mind the events unfolding in Terri's case.

http://www.hospicepatients.org/n-valko-terminal-sedation.html

It gave me a terminal case of the creeps.

[annyokie]

No need to be nasty. It's a big country and I just learned about this woman some months ago. Ease up, already.

[kimmie7]

and this....

What is important to note is that in the appropriate use of terminal sedation, the patient is sedated and death ensues from the underlying illness, NOT from the sedation itself! If the patient is sedated and the patient simply dehydrates over several days and dies of circulatory collapse, not the disease process, then the "terminal sedation" is not palliative care, but imposed death: euthanasia. If the patient is truly actively dying, and is then terminally sedated, the patient quite often does not have time to dehydrate, even though fluids are not being given, and the patient dies as a natural result of the terminal illness. The R.N. who called today stated that his hospice's medical director gave an example of a cancer patient without family support who wished to die at home. The medical director stated that in such a case, terminal sedation was appropriate and the patient could be sedated into a coma simply because nobody else was in the home to care for the patient and because the patient did not want to die in a facility. There was no mention of terminal agitation, delirium, severe anxiety related to respiratory problems or psychotic episodes ... in which sedation would be appropriate. In other words, the medical director was asserting that it was "ok" to hasten death intentionally by using terminal sedation. In fact, in the same hospice, a nurse on the hospice's ethics board told the group that they should look themselves in the mirror every morning and tell themselves, "I hasten people's deaths to eliminate their suffering, and that is ok."

from http://www.chninternational.com/terminal_sedation_1.htm

[Don Joe]

If she isn't brain-dead, and I have read that she is not, it is her family's responsability to have her cared for and in the event that they cannot then it is the State of Florida's responability to do so.

There is a substantial fund existing for the sole purpose of caring for her.

Her "husband" (ahem) will inherit it when she dies.

Cui bono?