'Exit protocol' for brain-disabled woman? (Breaking - Schiavo)

WorldNetDaily ^ | Aug. 29, 2003 | Sarah Foster

[Hildy]

I'm confused...if he's associated with the hospice...meaning he has a financial interest, wouldn't he want to keep her alive?

[iowamomforfreedom]

This has been my thought too.

I think it has more to do with his political agenda. He is VERY pro-euthenasia. I suspect the Judge is too.

[syriacus]

Repper, Garcia, and Associates

Greer and Martha Lenderman* have both used the same PR company.

That PR company has a partner who worked for Florida newspapers.

Wayne Garcia spent 13 years in daily print journalism as a reporter and editor for the Gainesville Sun, Tampa Tribune and St. Petersburg Times. Most recently he was editor-in-chief of ReviewNet, where his work founding the on-line site was awarded Best Online Newspaper (Small) by Editor & Publisher/The Kelsey Group.

Is this PR-newspaper connection affecting the way Florida papers cover Terri's case?

*Martha Lenderman is the wife of Greer's fellow judge. She is also on the Board of the Hospice that Terri has been in. (The PR company heped her in her campaign for State Rep. ---District 51 - 1998, it helped Greer in 1992)

[FITZ]

who suffered massive brain damage when she collapsed at their home 13 years ago under unexplained circumstances at the age of 26.

26 year olds just don't collapse --- I'll bet the husband wanted her dead from the start. If she's lived 13 years in this condition, she has a strong will to live. You can't keep someone alive once they lose that --- I bet he's afraid she could wake up and tell what happened to her. Never trust your life with an adulterous spouse.

[Vinnie]

'exit protocol'

Reminds me of a term Planned Parenthood used to use, Product of Conception

[annyokie]

Thanks! I'll go read. BBL.

[FITZ]

She was supposed to die months ago. I don't want her room filled with

He meant 13 years ago --- all he needs to do is walk away, leave her to the family which loves her, the people who brought her into the world in the first place. If getting a divorce is the problem --- someone should make sure he gets that even if she can't be informed --if that's his hangup. He's had a lover on the side --- he can let his poor wife go back to her parents --- but that might mean he and his lover don't get the insurance money.

[Mo1]

I don't understand why the parents don't get their attorney and go to court to remove legal guardianship and gain it for themselves.

They have .. they have also tried to have Judge Greer removed from the case .. but Judge Greer ruled against it

[syriacus]

Hospices need patients and Greer has (in effect) redefined "vegetative" to include many more patients, during his handling of Terri's case.

http://www.notdeadyet.org/docs/schaivobrief.html

Contrary to Florida law and established medical practice, the trial court imposed a new requirement that persons with severe disabilities demonstrate not just voluntary action "of any kind," as the state law's plain language specifies, but rather "consistent" and "reproducible" actions or responses to establish their own cognition.

[honeygrl]

Looks like the jerk will do whatever it takes to get her to die. It is nice to see that Jeb Bush has gotten into it though. Maybe he can help somehow.

[iowamomforfreedom]

Excellent point!

[honeygrl]

You need to read more about this case. Your comments suggest you haven't read much about it.

[GHCubana]

I'll bet the husband wanted her dead from the start. If she's lived 13 years in this condition, she has a strong will to live.

And she certantly is not brain dead. I am joining the fight for Terri. Her parents courage and love is admirable.
I would do the same thing if Terri was my daughter.

[GHCubana]

Could somebody include me in the Terri Ping list, please.
Thank you.

[MHGinTN]

Until We the Sovereigns of these United States let our outrage over socialist societal engineering judges be known and FELT, this sort of evil in our midst is laid at our door. We are responsible for not remaining vigilant in our own nation, our own states, our own neighborhoods. Terri Schiavo is about to be executed because We the People have acquiesced to judges and courts establishing our collective morality. This Greer ghoul is a prime example of an amoral person placed in power and reshaping our nation's morality. If We the People leave bastards like this in power, we are ultimately to blame for the immoral nation we become. I'm sorry to feel compelled to state this, but it appears that the politicians in Flordia are playing this to the hilt suing Terri's life as a pawn. Governor Bush is acting only in half-assed measures, it would appear, to involve his office incrimentally ... and Terri will be dead before Jeb Bush takes decisive action to protect her as a citizen of Florida. If this murderous husband and complicit/accomplice Judge are successful in executing Terri through neglect or direct withdrawal intervention, it is the Governor of Florida who has failed to do his duty to the citizenry of Florida ... unless Jeb agrees with the Judge and is seeking to hide that fact behind feckless inaction.

[dandelion]

No... hospices, which used to be about care for the dying, are now in the business of "death with dignity in a paid facility". That new mission has made "death by design" an industry, and it is worth MILLIONS, if not BILLIONS of dollars a year. The Hospice for the Florida Suncoast, where Terri is located, is the biggest employer in Pinellas County.

In the beginning of this case, Mike Schiavo could have garnered nearly one million dollars that had been earmarked for Terri's care, if she had just died. He had her moved to hospice, out of a theraputic care facility, and she has been in the hospice labelled "terminal" for NINE YEARS. No one is supposed to "live in a hospice" - if they do, they are obviously not in a terminal state. But Mike has kept her there, without basic care, without medical attention, and without therapy, for nearly a decade, trying to facilitate her death.

But Terri just WILL NOT DIE on her own.

So now this case has become about "allowing" Terri to die - by starvation. If they can just get the courts to change the definition of brain-damaged people from "disabled" to "needing to die" then they will create a whole new industry: an industry based on "facilitating the death" of thousands of incapacitated persons who never signed a directive - just like Terri.

Can you imagine the number of people that would gain guardianship of older or disabled relatives, and then bring them in for extermination based on that relative's word that "I know that Cousin Timmy/Uncle Joey/Grandma wanted to die; I heard them say it once"...? How many more will be lawyers who are "appointed" guardians for elderly patients who don't have visible heirs? After all, Hospice for the Florida Suncoast owns several nursing homes, assisted living centers, and has contracts with at least ONE hospital - Morton Plant, where Terri went for treatment.

The guardian gains the estate, or a small kickback, the hospice gets the money for the "patient" - and remember, they can't come to hospice without being pronounced "terminal". Oh outrageous, we say - but when a retarded adult or an old stroke victim gets labelled "terminal" because no one wants to live like that, who would object? If a cancer-ridden old man - or a brain-injured young woman - dies a "facilitated death", who cares as long as it lines the pockets of the corrupt?

It appears that there just aren't enough people terminal patients to support Hospice's financial goals. So, they are going to make patients terminal. That is exactly what Mike Schiavo did to Terri - and that's the kind of business that will make the Hospice and their patients' guardians rich beyond their wildest dreams.

[syriacus]

This Greer ghoul is a prime example of an amoral person placed in power and reshaping our nation's morality

Well said, MHGinTN!! I agree.

I'm sure he'd like a pat on the back for his "efforts on our behalf," too.

[syriacus]

It appears that there just aren't enough people terminal patients to support Hospice's financial goals. So, they are going to make patients terminal.

Well stated!!!

Medical ambulances will be busily moving patients out of the nursing homes--and into hospices.

It's much easier to find staff capable of "allowing" people to die, than finding staff capable of caring for disabled people.

Physical therapists need not apply.

[TheSpottedOwl]

Hey Kimmie, ping me if you see any new info on Terri.

This case isn't just about a woman who is going to be murdered. If Michael Schiavo and Judge Greer succeed, then we all will be touched by the consequences in one way or another.

It would be great if Florida FReepers could get together and hold a rally.

[annyokie]

You're correct. I don't know much about it and I thank all who are helping me to learn about this poor woman's plight.