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Take A Stand: Vote against H1B, Boycott H1B Companies
Self | November 2, 2002 | FormerLurker

Posted on 11/01/2002 8:18:12 PM PST by FormerLurker

It is a well known fact that there are scores of computer professionals who have been laid off and are out of work in this country. Those positions include software engineers, network engineers, and electrical engineers. Those who have lost their jobs in the past 24 months know what I am talking about.

We all know WHY we've been laid off. It is because indentured servants from other lands have overrun our country with the help of Congress due to the false premise of a labor shortage by IT industry lobbyists.

Here we have an opportunity to "layoff" those who were responsible for OUR layoffs.

Below is a link that provides information as to what your Senator and Congressman have voted for in relation to this problem;

Congressional Vote Map

Additionally, if you'd like to know which companies in your area hire H1B workers to replace Americans, click on the following link..

Advanced LCA Search Form


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1 posted on 11/01/2002 8:18:12 PM PST by FormerLurker
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To: Willie Green
This might be of interest to you..
2 posted on 11/01/2002 8:21:26 PM PST by FormerLurker
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To: FormerLurker
I'm boycotting Alec Baldwin and Stevan Segal films. I'm boycotting various companies for political/social reasons. It's come to the point there is nobosy left to do business with and I'm Stuck.
3 posted on 11/01/2002 8:26:53 PM PST by RLK
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To: FormerLurker
Thanks for the post! I can't believe how many companies in Seattle use H1-Bs. I had to narrow down my criteria as I maxed out the number of responses.
4 posted on 11/01/2002 8:30:41 PM PST by lelio
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To: RLK
First off, we need to vote against those who voted to raise the H1B quotas to where they were allowed to overrun our IT companies. Just for fun, do a search on your city with the database link I've provided. You'll see that there are an ENORMOUS number of H1B workers at MOST software companies today. It's easy not to do business with them, as all you need to do is not buy their software or services....
5 posted on 11/01/2002 8:31:42 PM PST by FormerLurker
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To: FormerLurker
H-1(b) Hall Of Shame - companies heavily hiring H-1(b) workers
6 posted on 11/01/2002 8:35:24 PM PST by glc1173@aol.com
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To: lelio
I can't believe how many companies in Seattle use H1-Bs. I had to narrow down my criteria as I maxed out the number of responses.

It's a known fact that MOST of the money that these workers make goes back to their families at home. This removes that money from the US economy. There is an estimated 1 million H1-B computer professionals in this country. If we take an average pay of $80,000 a year for a US worker, then that equates to $80 BILLION a year leaving the US economy. And people wonder why things aren't good with the stock market...

7 posted on 11/01/2002 8:36:34 PM PST by FormerLurker
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To: FormerLurker
Don't the H1B visa personnel get laid off before citizens ? That's the law, isn't it ?
8 posted on 11/01/2002 8:37:06 PM PST by Camber-G
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To: FormerLurker
I noticed that a lot of the companies using H1Bs a lot (like Aditi, which came up as I could only get to the C's) are founded by Indians. Perhaps they're more comfortable hiring their own. Perhaps they want to save money. Perhaps they're hiring their brother's cousin. Either way it stinks that they can get cheap labor like this through a gift by Congress.
9 posted on 11/01/2002 8:44:13 PM PST by lelio
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To: FormerLurker
Your pitiful math and logic skills tell an interesting story. You picked an outlandish number for average salary and the assume 100% of it leaves the U.S. Ergo, the worker paid zero taxes and lives here for free and never needs a bite to eat. Where can I get one of these magic Visas?
10 posted on 11/01/2002 8:45:38 PM PST by KingKongCobra
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To: Camber-G
Guess we'll find out with the recent layoffs from Sun. That is the law, as I understand it.
11 posted on 11/01/2002 8:51:02 PM PST by lelio
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To: FormerLurker
If we take an average pay of $80,000 a year for a US worker, then that equates to $80 BILLION a year leaving the US economy. And people wonder why things aren't good with the stock market...

OK. Eliminate H-1Bs entirely.

You know what happens next? Your company will simply outsource development to India. It's easily done, and India resources can undercut American programmers by 50%.

My company sells Indian outsourcing, and we're doing very well right now.

It's all about productivity. Get out of programming and into project management.

12 posted on 11/01/2002 8:52:30 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: lelio
"I can't believe how many companies in Seattle use H1-Bs."

You wouldn't believe how many companys use illegals. It's a miracle American citizens have any job at all.

13 posted on 11/01/2002 8:56:10 PM PST by brat
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To: brat
I think America would go apple-less if all illegals were kicked out. Traveling over to eastern Washington that's all you see.
14 posted on 11/01/2002 9:03:06 PM PST by lelio
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To: Camber-G
Don't the H1B visa personnel get laid off before citizens ? That's the law, isn't it ?

Nope.

15 posted on 11/01/2002 9:06:29 PM PST by dark_lord
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To: Camber-G
Don't the H1B visa personnel get laid off before citizens ? That's the law, isn't it ?

Actually, they've been laying off US Citizens and replacing them with H1-B workers. Although an Amendment to HR 3736 called the Watt Amendment would have offered protection to American workers, it was defeated by a vote of 177-242.

A bit more info on this can be read below..

IEEE-USA Urges Congress to Reject White House Deal on H-1B Bill

Lifting the H-1B cap for two years

16 posted on 11/01/2002 9:08:35 PM PST by FormerLurker
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To: sinkspur
It's all about productivity. Get out of programming and into project management.

Nope, it's all about short sighted greed and stupidity. In fact, you better hope you have your resume up to date, as PROJECT MANAGEMENT is going H1-B as well. Have fun..

17 posted on 11/01/2002 9:10:41 PM PST by FormerLurker
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To: FormerLurker
In fact, you better hope you have your resume up to date, as PROJECT MANAGEMENT is going H1-B as well. Have fun..

It's up to date.

I SELL offshore programming. Doing very well right now.

18 posted on 11/01/2002 9:13:28 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: lelio
Guess we'll find out with the recent layoffs from Sun.

Yep, and they sided with Sun of course..

Feds find Sun erred in posting H-1B visa notices, won't punish company

19 posted on 11/01/2002 9:15:31 PM PST by FormerLurker
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To: sinkspur
I SELL offshore programming. Doing very well right now.

I'm sure you are. How can you live with yourself? Do you enjoy being part of the cause of the decline of the United States economy and the poverty of hundreds of thousand American families?

20 posted on 11/01/2002 9:17:47 PM PST by FormerLurker
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