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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Alabama_Wild_Man
This is the only place, that I know of, where the "TRUTH" can be Located.

My sentiments, exactly!

1,101 posted on 11/29/2001 6:04:14 AM PST by ThomasMore
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To: katykelly
shuold=should
1,102 posted on 11/29/2001 6:04:55 AM PST by katykelly
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To: AppyPappy; Inspector Harry Callahan
E equals m c squared! F equals m a! The gradient of E is 4 pi rho! The d'Alembertian of the vector potential four-vector is minus mu naught times the current density four-vector!

Bring it on tough guy...

How the hell do I know what accusations you may or may not've made, dude... I don't pay much attention to folks unless they're discussin' booze, smokes or good strong country lovin'... I DO take offense at that buggy whip comment though.

1,103 posted on 11/29/2001 6:04:56 AM PST by maxwell
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To: Jim Robinson
You emphasize political activism, but what I mainly like about Free Republic is the opportunity to read a variety of articles and participate in discussions about them. As long as Free Republic satisfies my selfish need to discuss the issues of the day I'll stick around and contribute to it.
1,104 posted on 11/29/2001 6:05:11 AM PST by ThreeOfSeven
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To: DCBryan1
Why can't you make Free Republic a pay-per-use website? I think it's worth at least $10.00 a month. Not to offensive, and gets people paying.

More and more websites are becoming payment/membership oriented. You register, and have to be paid up in order to log on (usually with a card "on file" which the host debits every month), or you pay for the year and get a discount off the monthly rate. I think that would work here, too, and cut down on the rate of "disuptors" as well.

1,105 posted on 11/29/2001 6:05:14 AM PST by Sans-Culotte
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To: Jim Robinson
Keep it up, Jim! You're doing a great job.
1,106 posted on 11/29/2001 6:05:42 AM PST by Marysecretary
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To: 1 FELLOW FREEPER
That would be fantastic! Then I'D be one of the oldies. ;-)
1,107 posted on 11/29/2001 6:05:54 AM PST by FourtySeven
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To: Gracey
I believe you missed my point. All of the users are who bring value to FR, by our posting of news and discussing it is what makes this site valuable. I'm just pointing out that this site has a problem like napster (not legal issues, but how do you charge for it). If they charge then a lot of the posters will go away. Without all the posters the site is less valuable. The less valuable the site the less people will visit.
1,108 posted on 11/29/2001 6:07:54 AM PST by for-q-clinton
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To: CarolynBe; Uncle Sham; Antoninus; ihatemyalarmclock; toenail; uncbob; Dan from Michigan; 43for8...
Naturally, I'd hate to see FR vanish-

1- where else would so many hear our voices? Do you really want to go back to the days of "letters to the local paper?"
2- "Comforting the afflicted, and afflicting the comfortable" is an honorable avocation. Don't give your enemies the satisfaction!
3- the online, realtime commentary almost instantly dissects spin, lies, & propaganda. One day all news will be like this ( maybe! )- stay on the leading edge.


All you I have pinged? Excuse me if I repeat your names, of if you are among the few who have asked to be dropped.... I do not keep a "ping list"- this was made, right now, by going back & copying names from my "self-search," and it's a one-time deal.

John R

And a PS- I'm sending a donation today- how about you?

1,109 posted on 11/29/2001 6:08:40 AM PST by backhoe
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To: wewillnotfail
I like what you said in your post.

Cheers, CC :)

1,110 posted on 11/29/2001 6:08:59 AM PST by CheneyChick
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To: OWK
"quit screwing around with those bitter, anti-freeper nitwits. They're bad seed.... Each and every one of 'em. "

I disagree with that. Sure, there's a bad apple (or two) over there. But you are painting with an awfully broad brush when you claim that "each and every one of them" is bad news.

That simply isn't true.

Take care,
Callahan

1,111 posted on 11/29/2001 6:11:06 AM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Jim Robinson
Update to my Post #1043:

$25 check written, envelope addressed, check inserted into envelope, stamp affixed, envelope sealed............will be inserted into blue R2-D2 postal container during my lunch break.

1,112 posted on 11/29/2001 6:11:25 AM PST by DoctorMichael
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To: for-q-clinton
I like the idea suggested a while ago in this thread (I can't remember who said it sorry whoever did). It was basically to charge anyone who wanted to post, but not anyone who wanted to lurk.

I think that idea has some potential. Maybe even divide it up more and make it so you can pay to post like one time, or pay like a monthly post fee for unlimited posting.

1,113 posted on 11/29/2001 6:11:53 AM PST by FourtySeven
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To: Jim Robinson
Well, as I post this, there have been over 1000 replies and I haven't read them all and someone may have already mentioned this:

Jim, why not consider more advertising on the site to pay the bills?

1,114 posted on 11/29/2001 6:12:02 AM PST by FReepaholic
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
"I've looked at both sides of the '69 lunar "landing" issue. I'm still not convinced we went."

Save your breath, Harry.

90% of the current crop of Freepers weren't born in '69.

They only know what Big Brother wants them to know...

1,115 posted on 11/29/2001 6:12:10 AM PST by Jethro Tull
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To: Jim Robinson
It aint so, Jim

Whew! Great news! You had me worried there for a minute Jim.

Screw the AF's and long live FREE REPUBLIC!!!

1,116 posted on 11/29/2001 6:12:17 AM PST by Walkin Man
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To: Jim Robinson
On the issue of keeping Free Republic, Darth Sidious votes "aye"! May it live long and prosper :-)
1,117 posted on 11/29/2001 6:12:27 AM PST by Darth Sidious
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, how about an online auction? Everyone has things that they don't want, but others do. I'm sure everyone here would donate something special to it and it could really take off! What do you think?
1,118 posted on 11/29/2001 6:12:44 AM PST by Hildy
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To: maxwell
Einstein was right after all. Less filling.

Har!
Callahan

1,119 posted on 11/29/2001 6:12:53 AM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Jim Robinson
Let's keep it going. Heck, I just dropped off a (non-political list) that took up a lot of my time. I'm looking forward to staying here for a while.
1,120 posted on 11/29/2001 6:13:35 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian
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