Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson
I have been bothered by the way the thread where chuck allen raised his concerns was deleted. I don't know chuck very well, so I can't speak about his motives, desires, etc. The thread made it to 300 posts without a moderator stepping in (so I discount that the "thread" was actually an issue)...chuck got off topic with his questions, but his questions did raise some concerns. The thread dissappeared shortly thereafter (not his comments, not him...but the entire thread). This appeared to me as someone was throwing "dirt over the tire tracks."
Jim, I don't care if you wanna take an annual salary of $200K. The success of your website would validate such a salary, so to that I say "go you capitalist dog, you." However, the immediacy of the deletion of that thread certainly made it appear that someone was trying to hide something. Was this just a case of a moderator with an itchy trigger finger? If that's the case, then please tell us so.
I'm easily on FR 10 times a day...my wife thinks I'm nuts for going online and checking FR before lights out every night. I tell her it's the only way to get the REAL NEWS.
You got a few "enemies" nipping at your heels? Take it as a compliment...their ire only speaks of your success and the power of your efforts.
While the company I work for is on the verge of bankrupcy, my wife spends my paycheck faster than I can bring it in...I look forward to sending a fair chunk of change to help support FR. Christmas presents may be a tad small this year, but so be it.
Thank you for bringing FR to the world. It's a better place because of FR.
I think it has to do with the legal structure of the FR.
I'd advistise in a minute if JR offered.
Harry, I've got years of experience with those clowns.
Years.
Each and every one of them is a bitter, self-absorbed, spiteful, bunghole.
You can find out for yourself if you choose, or you can take my word for it, but you'll figure it out eventually either way.
They aren't interested in just and honest criticism of FR.
They're interested in screwing over Jim, FR, and anyone they see as associated with them.
They're a pack of lying jackals.
I don't think there is anything wrong in keeping your expenses and your revenue from donations entirely private even in absence of lawsuits. People give you money becuase they want to, and they receive something they value in return.
If you choose to tell us what the cash flow is like, do so, but don't feel an obligation. Those who demand an account are wrong; they don't understand how a free society is supposed to operate.
I looked at your link and the only thing that I saw was chuck asking about details about the money raised on the cruise, that were summarily dismissed by others because chuck did not attend the cruise. I did'nt see any statements by chuck that were out of line or breaking the posting guidelines. He may not have helped or attended the cruise but his questions were not over the line.
I am interested in the FR budget as well because I help raise money here and am always concerned that I am not asking people to donate to something that I don't fully undersatand. However, I realize the difficulties in full disclosure because of the people that are anxious to see FR shut down, and I have confidence in JR and BADJOE's actions and that they will not make a fool out of me for encouraging others to monetarily support this site.
I still say that chuck is either being treated unfairly or there is some other issue here that is not apparent to me, and if the money raised for the cruise is not disclosed I would prefer that it not even be used in regards to FR at all. A vague budget for reasons stated is ok by me, but not disclosing a general accounting causes me concern. From what I have seen so far I agree with chuck.
To me, this site is visited by those clicking on it. Contributions are made voluntarily. How can there be any fraud in that? If someone does not like it - don't visit. If you disagree with management, leave. It is that simple.
From now on, if I run across posters who insinuate fraud, who whine about the site - I will say what I think of their actions and suggest they just leave and not waste their time on a site they so hate.
Jim has created a wonderful site. In truth, he should be able to profit from his creation as others profit from theirs - Bill Gates, etc. I would not be in the least offended if he did profit from the site.
The conservative movement needs the ability to work together. Our country is at stake. Those that seek to take this site down know the power seen here and they want it gone or are merely jealous want-a-bees. Jim created this and none of their whining will change that.
Best wishes,
Callahan
I would be willing to gladly pay $35 per year for the privilege of lurking and posting on FR. The little extra fund then would be used to cover emergencies, promotions, etc.
Jim, I would think it is time to seriously consider going to subscriber-based FR. I would vote for it.
Let's put it to vote by the members!
You dug. And I'm proud of you!
Kindest regards,
Callahan
You've seen some... but not all. Basically you've seen what they want you to see. They watched your disagreements with FR, and they pulled you into the fold with the intent of making you useful to their purposes. They could give a shit less about you, or the beef you have with FR. They have their own agenda, and so long as they view you as useful to it, they continue to cultivate their "friendship" with you.
You're a big boy... you will do as you see fit, but don't say you weren't warned.
This thing has a history.
A long one.
I have made some donations to FreeRepublic over the years and I truly meant to send more but I never seem to get it done. So sorry. I am sure there are many others just like me. The solution is to bill me for the service. It would easily be worth at least ten dollars a month just for the privlege of reading(lurking).
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