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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: SamAdams76
Thanks for breaking it down(reply #384) so nicely.
541 posted on 11/28/2001 9:54:59 PM PST by budwiesest
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To: for-q-clinton
Actually, my participation ..... makes FR more valuable . If it weren't for us it would be useless. So how much is Jim going to pay us to post articles?

Are you serious??? What is your reason for dialing www.freerepublic.com? I see no logic in even looking at this site if the value to you is a big goose egg "0"

542 posted on 11/28/2001 9:55:58 PM PST by Gracey
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To: GeronL
1966?? wow!! Univac?

LOL.

543 posted on 11/28/2001 9:56:47 PM PST by alcuin
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To: Howlin
So I've been relegated to the waste bin because you don't like my opinion? How very democratic of you.
544 posted on 11/28/2001 9:56:59 PM PST by mercy
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To: big ern
I have benn so busy sending thank yous and printing donations, that I haven't had time to check FreepMail. I'll get to it as soon as I can.
545 posted on 11/28/2001 9:57:12 PM PST by BADJOE
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To: Harley - Mississippi
I am going back to IRC. I mean it. I am going back. Take my word about setting up a new Limbaugh chat-channel.

I will get a few free servers and plug some bots. It will be the best!

546 posted on 11/28/2001 9:58:08 PM PST by Buckeroo
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To: Jim Robinson
I wouldnt know what i'd do with my computer if you went off line Jim.
Free Republic is the first thing i do after making coffee in the morning,in fact Free Republic was the very first website i typed in my browser when i first went online.
Rush Limbaugh had mentioned FR on his show,this was back in 1997 and i alway's kept FR in the back of my mind and when i finally recieved a new puter for christmas and entered cyber space you and FR became my home.
Please stay Jim you provide a valuable service for people out there looking for the truth.That is FR ( truth),
a loyal freeper to the end,suzyq5558
547 posted on 11/28/2001 9:59:30 PM PST by suzyq5558
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To: MatthewViti
I'd be willing to pay $15-$20 monthly for the serivce anc even donate a little as some more money came my way. Keep up the site Jim, and remember that we need you!! Matthew Viti
548 posted on 11/28/2001 10:00:03 PM PST by MatthewViti
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To: Liberal Classic

"..free to run his website.."

That's the problem you see... People who yap about how 'free' FR is or isn't want to freeload, tell the owner how to do it, yet can't 'do it' themselves.

This place has a lot of ugly people that wander in from time to time, claiming to be 'conservatives' - are nothing of the sort - and dedicate their time making a mess of themselves and the forum. I'm personally glad they get the boot... it keeps the place sane, and the most attractive place of its kind on the Internet.

549 posted on 11/28/2001 10:00:32 PM PST by Ron C.
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To: Arator
If you have evidence or first hand knowledge of this supposed waste of $100,000 FReeper dollars, put it forth.

present draconian regime of censorship, banishment

Its their website, it can't be called censorship... its not draconian for the owner to make the rules.

550 posted on 11/28/2001 10:01:30 PM PST by GeronL
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To: mercy
Not because I don't agree with you; because you're too cheap to pay your share, just like a damn liberal.
551 posted on 11/28/2001 10:01:51 PM PST by Howlin
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To: All
My God, can anyone imagine what it would be like to have to go thru something like what happened Sept. 11th and not have FR here? This is the first place I went. FR got me thru that day. The first and best news from every corner of the globe all on one site. Personal accounts from people across the country. This site HAS to remain in place.
553 posted on 11/28/2001 10:02:45 PM PST by SoDak
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To: jerod
$10.00 a month should be OK...perhaps a separate page with paid adverts...or "useful links" as paid entries....sorted by categories if there a too many for a page.
554 posted on 11/28/2001 10:03:09 PM PST by spokeshave
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To: Arator
Torie is a "he." Jim is trying to ride a rather wild stallion. It is not easy. What you and I enjoy may simply not be what his larger constituency wants. One thing I do that you don't, is not to complain too much in public. That is my choice. You made yours. That legal bill thing is painful. Who knows the true facts. Maybe Jim was a bit naive about litigation. It is hell typically for the litigants. Trust me on that.

I do miss you (when you are the good Arator rather than the plaintive one), and of course Clarity (who had certain Neo-con tendencies bless him, and was as smart as a whip, but then he was a lawyer :) ). Cheers, and all the best.

555 posted on 11/28/2001 10:04:00 PM PST by Torie
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To: Jim Robinson
Keep her going...You'll find the bucks....
556 posted on 11/28/2001 10:04:03 PM PST by westmex
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To: gonzo
Time to bring in the big guns. 1 PING ONLY
557 posted on 11/28/2001 10:04:27 PM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: YaYa123
I like the way you expressed you opinion, and the opinion. But it doesn't go far enough. FR will be a better site when it becomes a subscription site. I am sick to death of the riff raff and don't come around nearly as much as I used to. I pretty much ignored the place all summer. Not only do I despise the junk threads I loathe the nazi threads. Almost all of this will go away if a substantial subscription is charged. If FR cannot exist without being cheap ... how good is it?
558 posted on 11/28/2001 10:04:37 PM PST by mercy
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To: Buckeroo
Have *YOU* turned into a Freeper ( some old troll that rides the back of a complaint department?)

What the heck does that mean? Is that what you think of your fellow forum members?

Gracious, no wonder you're not happy here.

559 posted on 11/28/2001 10:05:10 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Harley - Mississippi
Will kernel and skull-1 *REALLY* play?
560 posted on 11/28/2001 10:05:52 PM PST by Buckeroo
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