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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Howlin
There was a fake Howlin? What did I miss?
1,001 posted on 11/29/2001 5:15:23 AM PST by Osinski
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To: Jim Robinson
I have had to be away from FR quite a lot lately because of other time commitments, a death in the family, and Thanksgiving. I was unaware that all this was going on. Please Jim, try to find a way to keep going. I learn so much here. I still read the newspaper, but I get my "news" here. I would be lost without this place!
1,002 posted on 11/29/2001 5:15:39 AM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: Jim Robinson; BADJOE
I'll bet the FReep-a-thon this season (I think of them as Winter, Spring, Summer, Autumn) is going to hit its goal pretty quickly if we keep this thread bumped! =^)

BUMP

And Jim, please... PLEASE, do not take this bastion of FReedom away. It took 5 years to get where it is now (and become as INFLUENTIAL as it is now!). It would take even longer to re-create. Do not let the few, hateful, jealous jerks out there get you down! Evil will always exist. It's how we deal with it that determines the quality of our lives.

1,003 posted on 11/29/2001 5:16:12 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: Howlin
I guarantee you that some will try to reply just to be #1000 on this very important thread. Don't know who. Gotta go get that book about the pig that ate Willie.
1,004 posted on 11/29/2001 5:16:26 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: AppyPappy
Hey! I saw you in there kicking some butt!!!
1,005 posted on 11/29/2001 5:16:48 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, you've got my vote anyday! What do I care what other people say about FR? I just enjoy gathering here. Thanks!
1,006 posted on 11/29/2001 5:16:51 AM PST by Timeout
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To: Jim Robinson; BADJOE; gonzo; Seeking the truth; Matchett-PI; RMDupree; oldglory; MinuteGal...

God Bless America

God Bless FreeRepublic.com

FreeRepublic.com- Love It or Leave It!

Florida FReeper FRegards, Forever!

1,007 posted on 11/29/2001 5:17:40 AM PST by Luke FReeman
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To: AppyPappy
Don't mind me, I'm just shooting for post 1000
1,008 posted on 11/29/2001 5:17:56 AM PST by piasa
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To: leadpenny
Darn, missed it ; )
1,009 posted on 11/29/2001 5:18:36 AM PST by piasa
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To: Jim Robinson
Free Republic is the best site anywhere and I will gladly contribute. Wish it could be more - I'm a young but not rich retiree. Suggestion: how about directly asking for a sort of grant or donation from a wealthy conservative?
1,010 posted on 11/29/2001 5:18:45 AM PST by Peach
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To: AppyPappy
Hi Paps! Amazing, isn't it? By the way, I'm not "working in concert" with anyone. Heck, I'm not even working in a dang studio!

Just so you know....

Callahan Banned

1,011 posted on 11/29/2001 5:20:21 AM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Jim Robinson
"...if it is time for Free Republic to go away..."
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Nuh - Uh !! !! !!

This is the only place, that I know of, where the "TRUTH" can be Located.

A Day Without The Free Republic....is Like a Day With Bill Klinton.....yeach !! !! !! !! !!

1,012 posted on 11/29/2001 5:22:01 AM PST by Alabama_Wild_Man
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To: tex-oma
Yes? May I help you in any way, kind sir?

In any way? hehe

1,014 posted on 11/29/2001 5:22:16 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: Luis Gonzalez
That's Howlin pretending to be me.
1,015 posted on 11/29/2001 5:22:59 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
"Callahan Banned"

No longer, my FRiend...good to have you back. I just figgered you were ignoring me every time I bumped you...kinda hurt my feelings. How long you been on IR?

FReegards...MUD

1,016 posted on 11/29/2001 5:23:56 AM PST by Mudboy Slim
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To: Osinski
A little game Arator played to get attention for his pathetic little Anti-Freeper site; and as I stated, even after he knew it wasn't me, and had been asked to SAY it wasn't me over there, he refused and continued to play, as you can see in #756.
1,017 posted on 11/29/2001 5:24:26 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Jim Robinson
But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Jim - I've followed FR for many years, several before I ever registered. I run a "BBS" site myself and find myself mentioned occasionally as "a sometimes poster on Free Republic" and a few other attempts at "insults" from others. I've run BBSes for about 20 years, since the old dial-up days, starting around 1982 or so - on Apple Computers. We had a relatively famous BBS in those days (called AppleVenture BBS) back in Washington DC, which DID include a lot of political discussion - along with a few famous names who visited us over time.

Throughout those years we were constantly hit with attacks (generally verbal) of one sort or another because we believed strongly in Reagan. Regardless, the BBS stayed "on the air" until late in 1993 (several years after moving to Colorado) when we took a lightning strike on the old Apple systems.

Needless to say, it took that to take us down, not a lawsuit, not whiners and complainers. We didn't "give up" because there were detractors. We didn't quit because we got tired. We continued to bring information, the TRUTH to the public even when threatened by a certain "government agency" for no apparent reason.

AppleVenture is long gone, as are 99.9% of the old dial up systems, but they were the forerunner to Free Republic.

If anything, FR should stay, remain online until "lightning strikes" - and never, ever, EVER give it up because of a few whining, ignorant detractors.

Free Republic IS a reflection of America, it IS a reflection of freedom. It IS what the First Amendment means to us all. It IS the epitomy of American Freedom.

Illegitimus non Carborundum!

Rick Donaldson, The Anomalies Network
1,018 posted on 11/29/2001 5:24:37 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson
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To: zip
Best damn $25.00 a month I ever spent. I still anti up even without a job. Where else can you get the 'news' unfiltered and filled with great commentary and humor. Soon I will get up enough nerve to POST.
1,019 posted on 11/29/2001 5:25:12 AM PST by JimFreedom
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To: smarticus; Jim Robinson
"This IS the best of the Internet, never stop."

I'm with smarticus...MUD

1,020 posted on 11/29/2001 5:25:15 AM PST by Mudboy Slim
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